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Why not 18 games?

Posted on: May 27, 2011 4:38 pm

Roger Goodell still insists fans want an 18-game schedule, something he continues to preach.

What I want to know is this: Why wouldn't they?

I keep hearing all about the polls that say the fans don't want 18 games. What makes no sense is why you wouldn't want two extra games that count and take away two that don't?

Fans pay top dollar for preseason games that feature quarters full of guys who will be working as substitute teachers and lawn men in the fall. The preseason is dreadful, and four games are not needed.

So two more games that count would be good. Expand the rosters. Get more jobs. Keep more players active on Sunday.

That will help offset the injury factor. I can understand the players not wanting to play two more games that matter, but for the right money I still think they would be OK with it.

It's the fans I don't get.

Two games that count against two games that don't?

Sure seems like an easy decision to me.

Category: NFL

Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: July 12, 2011 1:04 pm

Why not 18 games?

Once again it is fans that drive up the prices for everything and let the NFL get away with this crap.  You guys complain about paying full price for preseason.  Well here's an idea: don't buy the tickets.  Tell the NFL: I refuse to pay for preseason games, fuck off.  Same idea with PSLs.

If you choose to pay this stuff stop whining.  We know you'll keep paying it anyway.  One guy blows $1500 a month during the NFL season.  That's what, roughly $7500 a year?  If you stick that into your retirement fund every year instead that would actually pay off for you, but you want to waste your money and then complain that you are getting ripped off.

Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: July 12, 2011 1:00 pm

Why not 18 games?

Because I don't want to watch Cardinals at Panthers the final 4 weeks of the season, as opposed to the current final 2 weeks of the season.

In fact, I want 2 less games.  I don't watch preseason and most of the players don't even play most of it anyway.  A better idea would be to ditch all of preseason altogether, and then also cut the regular season to 14 games.  Expand the playoffs if you must.

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: July 12, 2011 6:38 am

Why not 18 games?

Yeah right, moron. Where's your 18 game season now???

Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: June 6, 2011 1:39 pm

Why not 18 games?

I agree for the most part. If the NFL expanded rosters, protected a number of practice squad slots and allowed some flexible returns from the i R list, then I could see 18 games. The NFL would also have to guarantee a portion of all contracts to protect the players who would be more subject to injury

Since: Aug 15, 2008
Posted on: June 5, 2011 10:59 pm

Why not 18 games?

I agree. Just discount preseason. Problem solved. You know the NFL will not do that, they would rather risk player injury rather than lose money, no matter how much sense it makes.

Since: Aug 15, 2008
Posted on: June 5, 2011 10:56 pm

Why not 18 games?

I am a season ticket holder and am not sure I want an 18 game season. I surely do not want to pay full price for preseason like i have been. The reason I might not want an 18 game season is more games equal more injuries and also offers the opportunity for teams to sit players when they have their playoff spots locked up. So in effect, you will probably still be paying full price for games that are not going to be competitive. Teams will surely sit players if the playoffs are locked up with a game or two left. I know I would not want to risk injury to my key players. The answer is to keep a 16 game season and discount preseason games. The NFL does not want to do this because they will lose money. So instead they say the fans want more games. In reality it is not that we want two more games we just do not want to pay full price for preseason. Thats the bottom line. 

Since: Feb 9, 2011
Posted on: May 31, 2011 12:43 pm

Why not 18 games?

Absolutely it's crappy to have to pay full price a pre-season game. But wouldn't a better solution for everyone be that the owners simply lower the price of tickets for pre-season games? Obviously the product on the field is inferior to regular season, why are they justified in asking full price? If everyone players, owners, everyone has to take a haircut to accomplish this, then fine.  I'm not sure if there is any other industry that makes customers pay full price for an inferior product in order for the right to buy the better product?

This way we do the right thing by the players (health-wise, if they claim that more will get hurt with 2 more regular season games), keep the regular season at the right length, and fans don't get hosed by paying full price for exhibition football.

Since: May 28, 2011
Posted on: May 31, 2011 11:26 am

Why not 18 games?

How about this for a poll on the 18 game schedule.  If you are a fan and watch free TV then you get one vote.  If you are a fan and watch some fee based NFL package then you get 5 votes.  If you are a season ticket holder you get 100 votes.  This is probably unfair to the STH's relative economic contribution but at least it is representative.  Anyone who knows basic economics knows that not all opionions have equal weight and value in a business circumstance.  P.S.  Goodell's comment about wanting 18 game season was specific to STH's.

Since: Oct 23, 2009
Posted on: May 31, 2011 11:21 am

Why not 18 games?

Extending or even shortening the season will compromise the integrity and tradition of the sport.  Think about how many records will be rewritten in the history book, or how to even compare stats to hall of fame players when they play a different amount of regular season games.  New records will be broken every year with 2 extra games to be played.  Think about it people.  It's going to throw all of the old record-setting stats out the window.

I guess you're saying they shouldn't commit blasphemy against the sacred record scrolls.  Well it's too late, they went from 14 games to 16 games in 1978.  So maybe should they put an asterisk after any record set since then.

Since: Sep 2, 2009
Posted on: May 31, 2011 10:50 am

Why not 18 games?

I'm a firm beleiver in if it ain't broke don't fix it!  Especially when the motivation to make the change is greed and not to better the game for the fans.

You are obvioously not a season ticket holder. The problem is it IS broke. And needs to be fixed.

Consider this:

1) Preseason game tickets cost the same as regular season. As a ticket owner, you are forced to buy preseason games. I currently pay about $1500 per game for my seats. You have any idea how crappy it is to pay $1500 for a meaningless game?

2) Players still play, and get injured. Some say they don't play as hard, that's not true. There are many times one team is playing full out while the other team is "practicing". COaches vary how they attack each game. Regardless, players still get injured.

3)  Players do NOT get paid the same amount for preseason games. Making them legit was proposed in conjunction with increasing players salaries.

4) You mentioned "no health care once they retire". Did you not see the proposal made by the owners that included a large sum (above what they currently pay) paid to post-NFL health care? Now, take a look at how much the union makes per year. I'm not talking about the players. I am talking about the union itself. The number is in the Billions. Thats with a B... The union, which was put in place to protect it's players, has relentlessly fought to avoid helping retired players. In fact, retired players have sued to try and get them to help...

 Get your fact straight...

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