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Jets go crazy for Holmes

Posted on: July 27, 2011 12:01 pm
Edited on: July 27, 2011 12:15 pm
 

Are the New York Jets crazy?

They give Santonio Holmes, a receiver who has had more than 55 catches just once in his career, is one failed drug test away from a possible year-long suspension by the league, a contract that will pay him $50 million with $24 million in guaranteed money.

That $24 million, if true, is the most ever for a receiver. What?

This guy hasn't finished in the top-10 in catches in a season yet in his career. The Steelers were so turned off by him that they traded him for a fifth-round pick last summer.  The Steelers tired of his off-field issues, one of which led to a four-game suspension to start the 2010 season with the Jets.

Holmes is a nice player. And he has speed. Plus, Mark Sanchez loves him. But isn't that a lot of money for a risky player, who you wouldn't even consider a top-10 receiver in the NFL?

I can't imagine there was a great market for him -- which is why I always felt he would go back to the Jets --because of all the baggage. So somebody please explain the money to me.

Last time I checked, this wasn't Al Toon or Don Maynard we are talking about.

Comments

Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 3:00 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

"hardly. ive been watching and playing football for a hell of a long time. come on man, im not taking this personal so dont make it personal. im saying holmes is not worth the money hes getting. and maybe it is the tip of the iceberg but it doesnt make the observation wrong. take it down a notch when you tell people to get a clue and that theyre spewing garbage. were talking about a player who doesnt know either one of us and could care less about either of us so who cares?"


and i dont know you and this is a message board, how can you possibly take anything personally on a message board i could care less... 



Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:57 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

"What league were you watching last year? TO did just fine. 983 yards, 9TDs and averaged 70 yards a game. And my Ben Watson and TO comparisons were sarcastic and used to prove a point. My point was that after it all settles, his production was less than Watson. A Tight End on a horrible team. In five seasons, Holmes played 16 games twice. If Im an owner or manager writing the check, that would stand out to me. Dont tell me i spew garbage or to get a clue. Past performance dictates future performance. Period. Oh and by the way, youre more than welcome to join my fantasy league."


The bengals were his only prayer to get on a roster last year, and he just had off season surgery, and may miss sometime...

 Do people concern themself with gameplanning for Benjamin Watson or TO? id go out on a limb and say not to both, they are not that kind of player, Santonio draws a great deal of attention on that Jets offense, is that not important?, im just checking with the self proclaimed hall of fame fantasy league manager... 



Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:52 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

hardly. ive been watching and playing football for a hell of a long time. come on man, im not taking this personal so dont make it personal. im saying holmes is not worth the money hes getting. and maybe it is the tip of the iceberg but it doesnt make the observation wrong. take it down a notch when you tell people to get a clue and that theyre spewing garbage. were talking about a player who doesnt know either one of us and could care less about either of us so who cares?



Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:51 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

"No, genius, ALL players change the game.  ALL.  Every player DOES change the game.  If a punter comes in a shanks a 12 yarder, he has changed the game.  "Changing the game" is a relative term.  It can mean anything.

The simple point is that Holmes does not provide nearly enough benefit to warrant his hugely over priced salary.  There is ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE that Holmes' contract will look like a bargain in the future?  There are plenty of bad free agent signings.  THis is one of them."


are you serious, yes every player can change a game  ( we are talkin positive changes not just any change) but there are players MORE LIKELY TO DO SO, what dont you understand about that, whose more likely to change a game Peyton Manning or Alex Smith, thats what the game changer label is used for not your completely obvious and irritating straight forward use of the word "game changer"


again with this overpriced salary, youre comparing it to the past CBA look at the contracts handed out thus far id far better prefer 24 mil guaranteed to santonio holmes than i would dangelo williams, when williams has problems staying on the field, but thats just the world they live in now, money was taken from rookie wages and now the veterans are asking more and teams will be paying more.


I hate to keep saying it but what dont you understand about YOU knowing and understanding less about players value than one of the best GM's in the league, i like my chances in this argument for the future. 




Since: Feb 5, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:51 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

a few steps away from winning a Super Bowl? try 2 steps. There were a few questionable calls last year and you still just barely beat us, had that game been played on our home turf im sure things would of been different.
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Questionable calls? Barely beat us? If the game was on our home turf?

No, I am not a Steeler fan, but I can't stand to see a grown man cry. I guess there is the possibility that you're not a man, and just a snot nosed kid. You sure sounded like one with that post.


And IF somehow we can snag Nnamdi Asomuga the whole league will be put on notice WATCH OUT FOR THE JETS



NFL fans, I am putting you on notice as well.....WATCH OUT FOR CRYBABIES!



Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:47 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

What league were you watching last year? TO did just fine. 983 yards, 9TDs and averaged 70 yards a game. And my Ben Watson and TO comparisons were sarcastic and used to prove a point. My point was that after it all settles, his production was less than Watson. A Tight End on a horrible team. In five seasons, Holmes played 16 games twice. If Im an owner or manager writing the check, that would stand out to me. Dont tell me i spew garbage or to get a clue. Past performance dictates future performance. Period. Oh and by the way, youre more than welcome to join my fantasy league.



Since: Dec 16, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:45 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

"and no asking if hes a game changer is a smart question, every single player on the field "can" change a game, but how many do? use your brain... "

You say this and you think that I am the one who needs to use his brain????

No, genius, ALL players change the game.  ALL.  Every player DOES change the game.  If a punter comes in a shanks a 12 yarder, he has changed the game.  "Changing the game" is a relative term.  It can mean anything.

The simple point is that Holmes does not provide nearly enough benefit to warrant his hugely over priced salary.  There is ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE that Holmes' contract will look like a bargain in the future?  There are plenty of bad free agent signings.  THis is one of them.




Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:38 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

"I have a request for all of you in love with Holmes. 

PLEASE JOIN MY FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUE!!!!

HAHAHAHA.."


oh youre one of those, "he wont be ranked high in fantasy so hes not good" type of fans... 


now i understand 



Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:35 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

I have a request for all of you in love with Holmes.

PLEASE JOIN MY FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUE!!!!

HAHAHAHA..



Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:30 pm
 

Jets go crazy for Holmes

"Yes, Holmes is second tier, and by that I mean he isn't one of the elite receivers, nor is he even close, even though he is getting elite money.  

The fact that he is in a run first offense doesn't make him good.  If he was such a damn good receiver maybe the Jets wouldn't be so run-first.  Also, Holmes  was a member of some other teams in a addition to the Jets, annd he wasn't such a great player there either.

THe fact that he hasnt been able to stay on the field doesn't make him good either.

Is he a "game changer?"  That's a stupid question.  Every single player on the field changes the game and we all know it.  How much does he change the game?  Not nearly enough to warrant his new salary.  Not even close."



this contract hes signing will look like a bargain in a few years, read freemans article on how this new CBA is effecting free agent signings.


Playing on a run first team skews stats undoubtedly, the guy play best in the biggest of moments a super bowl mvp comes to mind...


yeah we all know he played for another team, the steelers, oh and another run first team... but he did win a super bowl, it just slips my mind who made that unbelievable catch in the back of the end zone against the cardinals.... a little help please?


and no asking if hes a game changer is a smart question, every single player on the field "can" change a game, but how many do?  use your brain... 



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