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Real message would be: Can't play

Posted on: August 14, 2011 12:36 pm
Edited on: August 14, 2011 12:37 pm
 

It's absurd to think Patriots coach Bill Belichick would sign a player for the sole reason of cutting him to send a message to his team.

That's what one team executive told National Football Post's Dan Pompei. I've known Dan a long time and respect him as a football writer, but even he has to realize that Belichick makes moves for one reason and one reason only: How well do you play?

The implication that Belichick would cut Albert Haynesworth or Chad Ochocinco or both to send a message to his players is foolish.

 If Haynesworth or Ochocinco can help the team, they stay. If they can't, they go.

When Randy Moss was helping the Patriots, he stayed. When he wasn't, he went. His attitude problems weren't a big deal when he was stretching the field. When he stopped doing so, he was sent packing.

Belichick is beyond using gimmicks to send messages to his players. He's earned far more respect than that.

So if either of the veteran players is let go, it's not for anything other than football reasons.

Belichick, like all the other coaches in the league, would play an ax-murderer as long that man showed up, worked and contributed -- and stayed out of jail.

Last time I checked, Ochocinco and Haynesworth weren't one of those.

Category: NFL
Tags: Patriots
 
Comments

Since: Dec 25, 2006
Posted on: August 15, 2011 7:04 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

I see no question marks in your post.  I can't wait for the question.
The question is this ... if you really need me to spell it out for you.

Stealing signals is legal, but videotaping the sidelines is illegal. There are other legal and equally effective ways to steal signals besides videotape. With this being an indisputable fact ...

How can you say that the Patriots gained an unfair advantage over others that directly led to their success, if others could legally and easily acquire the same information about them?




Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: August 15, 2011 7:01 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

*Dynasty:  Did the Patriots break the rules? YES.


I see your question now.  You answered it... congrats!  Hence the *championships.



Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: August 15, 2011 6:58 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

RILawman:  Besides what good is a vieo tape when you don't execute.

Wow.  Did I read that correctly?  Because they executed on the plays where they cheated it somehow negates the cheating?  Brilliant.
I'm sorry that you were dropped as a child... truly regrettable.



Since: Dec 25, 2006
Posted on: August 15, 2011 6:55 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

RILawman.....in 01, you never should have seen the Steelers because that 16-13 win while not an offensive display by the Pats was an obnoxious display by the officials....by far the worst call (in terms of idiocy and importance to the game of a call and the importance of the game itself) in NFL History


1) The Steelers were probably the second best team in the league that year (behind the Rams). The Raiders would have been eaten alive by either the Steelers or the Rams if they beat NE that night. (And if the Raiders were so good, why didn't THEY host that game?)

2) Bledsoe once said (and I must agree) that if you lose a game on a bad call, did you really hands down deserve to win? And don't tell me about a game of inches. If you kept the game that close then you leave the door open for shiz to happen.

3) Nobody can deny that by the letter of the rule (tuck), the call was correct.

4) But in all honesty, I think it was pretty clear that (even though the correct call based on the rules) in the real world, Brady fumbled the ball and was recovered by Oakland. Game over and Oakland moves on.



Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: August 15, 2011 6:53 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

*Dynasty:   I agree that videotaping was illegal.  But you carried on and still failed to adress the specific question I asked.

I see no question marks in your post.  I can't wait for the question.



Since: Dec 25, 2006
Posted on: August 15, 2011 6:45 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

so what that tells me (and this of course is just my opinion) is that the Patriots and Belechick, while still a decent team, with substantial tallent can't win the big games without cheating.

Funny how still nobody has addressed my earlier point of the Patriots gaining some kind of unfair advantage that you call cheating.
I think I know why. Because nobody using straight up logic can say I'm wrong.

Let me copy and paste again ...


NFL coaching staffs are loaded with life long football heads that understand each and every nuance of the game (and a hell of alot more than 99.9% of the people commenting here).

A member of the Patriots coaching staff can watch the Jets sideline, look at the signals and see what kind of defensive play they run. Pretty damn easy for someone with that kind of knowledge.

You don't need videotape to steal signals.
Videotape just makes it easier.

It's not the question if other teams did it too and NE is the one that got caught.

THEY EITHER ALL DO IT CAUSE IT'S USEFUL OR HARDLY ANYBODY DOES BECAUSE IT ISN'T!

And if it is useful, you'd better believe that EVERYBODY DOES IT AND DOES SO TO THIS DAY!


Did the Patriots break the rules? YES ... but saying things like the Patriots cheated and had some kind of unfair advantage that propelled them to victory and their wins meant nothing ... is a completely incorrect (and uncalled for insult).




Since: Feb 21, 2011
Posted on: August 15, 2011 5:23 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

RILawman.....in 01, you never should have seen the Steelers because that 16-13 win while not an offensive display by the Pats was an obnoxious display by the officials....by far the worst call (in terms of idiocy and importance to the game of a call and the importance of the game itself) in NFL History




Since: Feb 21, 2011
Posted on: August 15, 2011 5:16 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

What a lot of you are forgetting or neglecting to acknowledge is that the cheating accusation by the league goes back to the year of their first Super Bowl, the same year the league invented the tuck rule, by the way, and was brought to light before the super bowl in the nearly perfect season (still laugh at that one on ocasion)....so what that tells me (and this of course is just my opinion) is that the Patriots and Belechick, while still a decent team, with substantial tallent can't win the big games without cheating.



Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: August 15, 2011 5:06 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

     I can't believe I am even adressing a stupid Jets fan whose team hasn't even been to the superbowl in 40 years.  By the way Belichick coached your team as well in case you forgot.  I guess the video taping only works in New England.
    As far as the steeler fan, they are the biggesst bunch of babies on this site.  "Spygate that's why we lost", give me a break.  In 01 You lost because of punt return for a TD and a blocked punt for a td.  Now, even someone with limited intelligence such as yourself should be able to tell that when 14 of 24 points comes from special teams,  the taping of defensive signals had no part in the game.  Besides what good is a vieo tape when you don't execute. 
     In 04 when the Pats handed the steelers their heads, 24 of the points scored came off 4 TO's by the steelers.  Nothing to do with defensive signals, more to do with the steelers miscues.  01 - 16-13 OT against Oak, obviously another offensive display by the Pats.
  Beating INDY in 03 to go to the superbowl, 4 manning ints, 4 sacks, safety, fumble, winning 24-14.  Tenn 17-14.  Yes I agree, I can see where knowing defensive signal decided these games.
04- 3 ints by manning in a 20-3 win, 144 yards by dillon.  The Pats won because otheer teams turned the ball over and they didn't end of story.
Quit your crying and accept the fact that the Pats were the better team.

 




Since: Dec 25, 2006
Posted on: August 15, 2011 4:15 pm
 

Real message would be: Can't play

This is professional sports and there is too much on the line from an NFL integrity perspective to make a bigger example of the Patriots.  They couldn't have been penalized any further... just like baseball can't penalize the juicers or teams of juicers.  There's too much league integrity to lose.  What this means is that the Patriots are left forever with an unofficial asterisk on their record.  Accept it.  It's that simple.
That is purely your opinion. Not a fact or anything even close to it.


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