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Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

Posted on: November 14, 2011 1:57 pm

There's been a lot of talk this week about Devin Hester being Hall of Fame worthy.

I say no.

Hester is a great return man, but do we put return men into the game -- even if they are the greatest of all time?

We've had a lot of great return men in our time, guys like Brian Mitchell of the Redskins and Eagles. Did anybody ever consider him a candidate for the Pro Football Hall of Fame?

Hester is a special return man. He now has 18 returns for scores, one off the record of returns for touchdowns held by Deion Sanders.

But when you consider special teams to be 1/12th or so of the game, how can a player who returns kicks and punts be in the Hall.

Let's call Hester what he is, a special return man who can change a game.

Not Hall worthy.

----Who are the Atlanta Falcons on offense? That's it. They don't know. If you trade up to get Julio Jones in the first round, don't you have to become a pass-first team? But they played ball-control football against the Saints in the first half. It worked. They won the time of possession battle, controlling the ball for llnor. They were also trailing at the half. Matt Ryan threw for 122 yards in the first half as the Falcons used a lot of bunch formations. In the second half, when they were forced to spread things out, even with Jones out with a hamstring injury, they moved the ball better. Ryan finished with 351 yards and a touchdown. Harry Douglas, who would be the slot receiver in a three-receiver set, filled in for Jones and had a big second half. He caught eight passes for 133 yards in the game, all but one catch coming in the second half. I understand the Falcons want to keep the ball away from Drew Brees, but that strategy only works if you score touchdowns. Chunk plays are what they need, not ball-control offense.

---Tim Tebow is 3-1 as a starter. But what position is he playing? It sure as hell isn't quarterback. Tebow completed two passes against the Chiefs Sunday -- and won. How the heck does that happen? I know there are a lot of media members out there singing his praises and lauding Denver for playing to his strengths, which aren't quarterback strengths. But anybody who thinks that's a winning formula in the NFL needs to have their head examined. All the Broncos are doing, maybe in a subtle way, is proving that Tebow isn't the long-term answer. Tebow had one completion for 56 yards and a touchdown -- he looked like an NFL passer on that play -- but he completed just one other pass. He ran for 43 yards on nine carries.  The Broncos are proving a point to everyone without really proving it. Tebow can't be an NFL quarterback. He just can't.

---Can we slow down the Cam Newton hype now? Newton was just OK against the Titans. He threw for 212 yards on 23 completions and was picked off once. He ran seven times for 55 yards. But Newton's numbers are coming down. Are teams figuring him out? He was also sacked five times, three of those from non-down defensive players.

---So Chris Johnson is alive? Johnson looked more like his old self against the Panthers, rushing for 130 yards and a touchdown. He also had four catches for 44 yards. Just remember, the Panthers have real problems stopping the run. But it's a start.

---Enough, already. Curtis Painter is horrible. The Colts need to sit him down and play somebody else. Anybody but him.

--Steelers receiver Hines Ward had one catch for 10 yards against the Bengals. It looks like Ward is being phased out. When Emmanuel Sanders returns from injury, expect the Steelers to make Ward their fourth receiver. That could be interesting in terms of how he reacts.

--- Tony Romo completed 23 of 26 passes (88.5 percent) for 270 yards with three touchdowns. Still have doubts about him?

---Does it really matter who plays quarterback for the Redskins? The Shanahan family has totally botched the handling of that position. Rex Grossman was back in as the starter against Miami and he was 21 of 32 for 215 yards and two picks. The Redskins scored six points.  Ugg.

---I think the Rams would be making a mistake if they fire coach Steve Spagnuolo. It would be unfair with all the injuries his team has sustained. He deserves another year. The Rams are still fighting for him.

--The Jaguars have held opponents under 300 yards in six of their first nine games and the Colts were eighth team to be held below their average against the Jaguars (282.8 avg.) Defensive coordinator Mel Tucker has done a nice job with that unit. It won't help his cause that corner Rashean Mathis is now out for the season with a torn ACL. Mathis was having a good season in a contract year. 

---The Cardinals should keep John Skelton in as their starting quarterback. He looked good after an early interception. With the way Kevin Kolb was struggling, why not take a look at Skelton. If he continues to play well, it will be interesting to see if the Cardinals would admit a mistake on trading and paying Kolb.

---Losing Eric Wood is a big hit for the Bills offensive line. He has played at a high level this season. In Wood and guard Andy Levitre, the Bills have two really good linemen.

---If I'm the GM of the Eagles, I am not paying DeSean Jackson. His act this season tells you all you need to know about him. The book on him coming out of Cal was he was selfish. Some teams had him off their board. Now we know why. His teammates should be sick of his act by now.

--It's laughable to think Falcons coach Mike Smith opted to go for the first down from his own 29 because he got a new contract last year. Whoever said that does not know the man. The aggression is part of who Smith is as a man. I respect his decision, even if I disagreed with it.

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Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2011 7:09 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

The Hall is for the best.  And the best kick returner is Devin Hester.  When/if he is inducted, people will fully realize that his contributions are limited to special teams.  I am not sure about Hester, but Ray Guy should already be in and Shane Lechler should be on his way, no contest.

Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2011 6:58 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

How can you deny a player who is the best of all time at what he is paid to do. Hester's job is a punt returner. That's what he does. That's what he is asked to do. Kickers are eligible for HOF aren't they? So why not kick returners? Also, Ray Guy should be in the HOF because he is the greatest punter of all time. Hester belongs. So does Ray Guy.

Since: Jun 26, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2011 6:18 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

So you say Hester can change a game, yet you say special teams are 1/12 of the game?  Which is it?  Ask Bears fans whether Hester can change a game and how much of the game are special teams - Gould and Hester have won many games

Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:54 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

@kelleher lol about Ray Rice.  Wonder why Prisco did not write an article stating Ray Rice is not an NFL RB.

Since: Nov 14, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:48 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

Talk more slowly?  Oh, you must be a sports reporter...  OK, this is for you Prisco:  HESTER....BELONGS....IN....THE...HA

LL....OF...FAME!!!  First ballot, too, btw.

Or did your editor ask you to write from your dufus file, just to stir it up?

Since: Nov 14, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:36 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

Tebow also had more carries than Rice!!!!

Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:34 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

@Sports4life Your Ray Rice analogy is ridiculous.  It is not Tebow’s fault that the run game was working so well that the Broncos didn’t even need to attempt a throw in the 1<sup>st</sup> quarter.  Or maybe it WAS partly his fault that the running game was working so well.  You obviously are a newbie to the NFL to not know that Tebow is playing better at quarterback than John Elway did for his first dozen starts, during which he looked absolutely putrid (check out the FILM and/or the STATS), or than Kyle Orton did for his first dozen starts for which he looked like a guy who needed to find another line of work.  John Fox is one of the most conservative game callers anywhere around and that hurt Orton and it hurts Tebow, but you work the game plan the coach devises.  No one knows whether Tebow will make it, so don’t make statements with utter ignorance of NFL history.  Which stat line would your rather have as a QB:  2 for 8 for 69 yards, 1 TD, or 15 for 28 for 93 yards and 1 TD?  If only Tebow had thrown 20 more throws and completed 13 of them for 24 yards he could have been as great at Matt Cassel.  Or would you rather have John Elway’s stats for his 5<sup>th</sup> start: 4 for 10 for 36 yards and 0 TD’s and 1 interception?

Since: Sep 7, 2009
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:28 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

i seriously hope you don't get a vote.  You don't want to put one of the most excitable and unstoppable players in the HOF just because of the position he plays has been overlooked?  
Devin Hester isn't just only a special return man, he is a special player.  When he is line up as a WR, teams make note of him because of that blazing speed.  But he has done something no one else has done.. and the reason he is one behind Deion Sanders (HOF) number is that he only has done this on punt/kickoff returns.  Deion overall number include punt/kickoff/return AND interceptionis.  Hester already has the record for kick/punt returns and now he is only ONE behind Deion for non offensive plays TDs.  Devin Hester has in his 5 years, 17 SEVENTEEN kick/punt returns TDs on top of that he has 13TDs as a receiver.

Dude your argument makes no sense and is now officially CRUSHED!  Not just by me, but by everyone.  Stop hating!  And start actually analyze what you see, not what you wish it to be. 

Since: Feb 3, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:20 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

Prisco: "Tebow can't be an NFL quarterback. He just can't."

Hey Pete, Tebow is listed on the Denver roster as a QB... he's playing that position on Sundays... he's being paid to play QB... and as a starting QB in the NFL he is 3-1... in his first year as a starter he has as many victories as all of you media experts' ultimate, all time great, must be headed for the Hall and can't be stopped QB Micheal Vick... Tebow is an NFL QB... get over it...


Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:03 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

I agree:No punt returners in the HOF. Also no offensive linemen, afterall they play less than half the time and there are 5 of them so you really need to divide thir impact by 5. Also no defensive players, they just don't score enough and very few of then even touch the ball. No coaches either! they don't do jack! Really let's be honest: Only QBs on teams that have won at least 3 superbowls deserve to be in the HOF.

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