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Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

Posted on: November 14, 2011 1:57 pm

There's been a lot of talk this week about Devin Hester being Hall of Fame worthy.

I say no.

Hester is a great return man, but do we put return men into the game -- even if they are the greatest of all time?

We've had a lot of great return men in our time, guys like Brian Mitchell of the Redskins and Eagles. Did anybody ever consider him a candidate for the Pro Football Hall of Fame?

Hester is a special return man. He now has 18 returns for scores, one off the record of returns for touchdowns held by Deion Sanders.

But when you consider special teams to be 1/12th or so of the game, how can a player who returns kicks and punts be in the Hall.

Let's call Hester what he is, a special return man who can change a game.

Not Hall worthy.

----Who are the Atlanta Falcons on offense? That's it. They don't know. If you trade up to get Julio Jones in the first round, don't you have to become a pass-first team? But they played ball-control football against the Saints in the first half. It worked. They won the time of possession battle, controlling the ball for llnor. They were also trailing at the half. Matt Ryan threw for 122 yards in the first half as the Falcons used a lot of bunch formations. In the second half, when they were forced to spread things out, even with Jones out with a hamstring injury, they moved the ball better. Ryan finished with 351 yards and a touchdown. Harry Douglas, who would be the slot receiver in a three-receiver set, filled in for Jones and had a big second half. He caught eight passes for 133 yards in the game, all but one catch coming in the second half. I understand the Falcons want to keep the ball away from Drew Brees, but that strategy only works if you score touchdowns. Chunk plays are what they need, not ball-control offense.

---Tim Tebow is 3-1 as a starter. But what position is he playing? It sure as hell isn't quarterback. Tebow completed two passes against the Chiefs Sunday -- and won. How the heck does that happen? I know there are a lot of media members out there singing his praises and lauding Denver for playing to his strengths, which aren't quarterback strengths. But anybody who thinks that's a winning formula in the NFL needs to have their head examined. All the Broncos are doing, maybe in a subtle way, is proving that Tebow isn't the long-term answer. Tebow had one completion for 56 yards and a touchdown -- he looked like an NFL passer on that play -- but he completed just one other pass. He ran for 43 yards on nine carries.  The Broncos are proving a point to everyone without really proving it. Tebow can't be an NFL quarterback. He just can't.

---Can we slow down the Cam Newton hype now? Newton was just OK against the Titans. He threw for 212 yards on 23 completions and was picked off once. He ran seven times for 55 yards. But Newton's numbers are coming down. Are teams figuring him out? He was also sacked five times, three of those from non-down defensive players.

---So Chris Johnson is alive? Johnson looked more like his old self against the Panthers, rushing for 130 yards and a touchdown. He also had four catches for 44 yards. Just remember, the Panthers have real problems stopping the run. But it's a start.

---Enough, already. Curtis Painter is horrible. The Colts need to sit him down and play somebody else. Anybody but him.

--Steelers receiver Hines Ward had one catch for 10 yards against the Bengals. It looks like Ward is being phased out. When Emmanuel Sanders returns from injury, expect the Steelers to make Ward their fourth receiver. That could be interesting in terms of how he reacts.

--- Tony Romo completed 23 of 26 passes (88.5 percent) for 270 yards with three touchdowns. Still have doubts about him?

---Does it really matter who plays quarterback for the Redskins? The Shanahan family has totally botched the handling of that position. Rex Grossman was back in as the starter against Miami and he was 21 of 32 for 215 yards and two picks. The Redskins scored six points.  Ugg.

---I think the Rams would be making a mistake if they fire coach Steve Spagnuolo. It would be unfair with all the injuries his team has sustained. He deserves another year. The Rams are still fighting for him.

--The Jaguars have held opponents under 300 yards in six of their first nine games and the Colts were eighth team to be held below their average against the Jaguars (282.8 avg.) Defensive coordinator Mel Tucker has done a nice job with that unit. It won't help his cause that corner Rashean Mathis is now out for the season with a torn ACL. Mathis was having a good season in a contract year. 

---The Cardinals should keep John Skelton in as their starting quarterback. He looked good after an early interception. With the way Kevin Kolb was struggling, why not take a look at Skelton. If he continues to play well, it will be interesting to see if the Cardinals would admit a mistake on trading and paying Kolb.

---Losing Eric Wood is a big hit for the Bills offensive line. He has played at a high level this season. In Wood and guard Andy Levitre, the Bills have two really good linemen.

---If I'm the GM of the Eagles, I am not paying DeSean Jackson. His act this season tells you all you need to know about him. The book on him coming out of Cal was he was selfish. Some teams had him off their board. Now we know why. His teammates should be sick of his act by now.

--It's laughable to think Falcons coach Mike Smith opted to go for the first down from his own 29 because he got a new contract last year. Whoever said that does not know the man. The aggression is part of who Smith is as a man. I respect his decision, even if I disagreed with it.

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Since: Aug 22, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2011 3:01 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

i know its a different sport, but aren't there some closers in the baseball Hall of Fame? What do they count for- 1/18th of a game?

Since: Nov 14, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 2:43 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

I'm 50-50 on Hester, but the man has changed the game. And he changes the course of a game being played entirely. For that I think he should be in consideration. The Hall is going to add some marginal players, "The Bus", Curtis Martin maybe. Those were average players, so I think Hester, being great would be above those.

Also Tebow certainly isn't throwing like an NFL starter but they only called 8 passing plays the other day. He's 3-1, and when they beat the Jets Thursday night people will have another excuse. I'd rather have Tebow instead of Gabbert that's for sure. There's a man that can barely get over 100yds passing and no one seems to say anything. It's all about wins and losses and he sure is putting up a good record so far.

Since: May 8, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2011 2:27 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

Okay SkyHawk.. how exactly do you figure that special teams is 1/3 of football. Just because there is offense, defense and special teams, doesn't make it one third. Prisco is correct in stating it's roughly 1/12th of the game based on the number of plays special teams actually factors into during an NFL game. No way Hestor gets into the hall, and if he does then it's a joke. Basically he'll be rewarded for not being good enough to be on the offense full time. Players who are truly "hall-worthy" don't even play on special teams.

Since: May 27, 2010
Posted on: November 14, 2011 2:10 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

If Hester keeps doing what he's doing, he'll finish outside the top 250 players All-Time in career TD's scored.   That in itself keeps him out of the Hall.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2011 2:04 pm

Monday Musings: Slow down on Hester to Hall talk

But when you consider special teams to be 1/12th or so of the game, how can a player who returns kicks and punts be in the Hall.
Maybe YOU do, Prisco, but most people don't. Special teams are a third of the game, and if Hester keeps doing what he's doing, he belongs in the Hall.

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