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Saints make a good deal

Posted on: July 21, 2008 4:59 pm

One of the dumbest notions during the New York Giants' run to the Super Bowl last season was that they were a better team without injured tight end Jeremy Shockey.

That's nuts.

How can any offense be better without a pass-catching tight end that can stretch the middle of the field, yet is tough enough to block the edge for the run game? Shockey can be a pain off the field, and he works out on his own schedule in Miami, but he's a gamer.

When he's healthy, he gives it all on Sunday.

That's what the New Orleans Saints are getting in Shockey, who they traded to get Monday. The Saints gave up two draft picks, a second and a fifth next year, to get Shockey from the Giants.

Adding Shockey's ability to create problems in the middle of the field will add another dimension to one of the league's best passing game. Saints coach Sean Payton is the best play-caller in the league, and with Shockey he will be even better.

Payton has helped Drew Brees throw for over 4,000 yards the past two seasons and that's with limited help in terms of weapons. Adding Shockey and the hoped improvement of 2007 first-round pick Robert Meachem will make the offense even better.

The Giants had issues with Shockey's propensity to sometimes be in the wrong place at the wrong time, but you can bet Payton will remedy that.

Giving up a second-round pick is a high price. But Shockey is worth it -- if he can stay on the field.

He might have a big mouth and he can be a distraction, but I want guys like Shockey on my team. Sunday is all that matters.

Now we'll find out if the Giants truly are better without Shockey.

Here's a bet that they're not.


Category: NFL
Tags: Saints

Since: Nov 4, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2008 6:22 pm

Saints make a good deal

Anybody remember the last few yr's "production" from our all star cast of TEs.

A hobbling Shockey could do at least that much and one engaged in what we are trying to do (remember that Peyton coached Shockey when he was at his best and most productive) could be the big difference we need.

A TE that can get beyond the LBs, knock one down once in a while and actually catch it consistently is at least a reasonable gamble. This is definitely a case of 2 + 5 = at least 7, as in TD that is.

I was at the House of Blues Saturday nite and the place broke out three times in Who dat chants during the middle of the show. The performer even mention Shockey and the place erupted. Sure it's a risk he could be a pain but this is like buying a stock you think can go down 3 bucks or up 12. In other words, a good bet!

Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: July 23, 2008 1:31 am

Saints make a good deal

"...recovering from a broken leg. That's a tough injury to bounce back from..."

That is the same logic that had San Diego trade away Drew Brees, and give the Saints one of the NFL elite quarterbacks. Shockey is a huge pickup for the Saints, and will prove to be a major piece in a push for the Super Bowl.

Since: Apr 14, 2008
Posted on: July 22, 2008 4:24 pm

Saints make a good deal

The Saints are an exciting team, but calling it the Super Bowl now that they have Shockey?.... way premature dude. There is this little football thing called "injuries".... I live in Giants Country and believe me, Shockey's good but almost constantly hurt and/or complaining...

Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: July 22, 2008 1:27 pm

Saints make a good deal

For one, the Saints window of opportunity is anything but small. Most of their starters are under 30 yrs old: Sedrick Ellis (R), Colston (3rd yr), Bush (3rd yr), Jamaal Brown (4th yr), Jahri Evans (3rd yr), Vilma (5th yr), Will Smith (5th yr), etc. etc. Even Brees isn't 30 yet and Shockey's only 27 himself.

As far as a potential "1st rd pick" the Saints are short-sighted enough to allow that to happen. If the Saints' have to choose between signing Vilma to an extension or keeping their 1st rd pick, it's not a hard decision for the GM - just resign Vilma later.

Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: July 22, 2008 12:51 pm

Saints make a good deal

I think this deal was good for both teams.

The Saints have a small window of opportunity to win and Shockey helps that.

The Giants have won and will be in position to do so for the 5 to 10 years.

I am sure that $1 million the Giants save off their cap # can go towards Plax's new contract.

Also, the second round pick that the Saints agreed to in this trade could already belong to the Jets as part of the Vilma

trade, if conditions are met (Vilma in 85% of D plays & signs a extension). The Saints would then have to give the Giants

their 2010 first round pick.


If that happens, then this move becomes a great one for the Giants.

Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: July 22, 2008 12:49 pm

Saints make a good deal

This just in...GIANTS are SUPER BOWL CHAMPS!!!! How many in New Orleans?? Yeah thought so. Giants are NOT better without Shockey but this allows him and them to move on. He clearly wanted out and so good luck to him. Giants get a couple of years now to re-tool for hopefully another run after losing Strahan, Shockey, Wilson and Mitchell. They will be fine. Just let me know how Shockey reacts after the ball is in Bush, McAllister and Colston's hands a lot when he wants the ball.

Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: July 22, 2008 12:43 pm

Saints make a good deal

No one is ever a lock to get to the playoffs, see injuries, and 16 games, we shall see.

Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: July 22, 2008 12:15 pm

Saints make a good deal

It's funny how much of a hypocrite this clown Pete Prosco is. He bashes the Skins for making a similiar trade and giving up less than what the Saints used to get Shockey.  Sure Taylor is older but he's nowhere near the headcase Shockey is and a far superior player. Prisco is just one of those sports talking heads that will bash Dan Snyder and the Skins regardless of any move they make.  

Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: July 22, 2008 10:24 am

Over and Out

Shockey will make Saints better but he will make Giants better as well.  The problem with players like Shockey is that they contribute but make it known to everyone in the universe they doo and that they need to be 'respected'.  Not so fast my man. Respect you earn and not advertise for it.  Regrdless, we should be talking about the future which is BOSS.  I hope his Bavaro-esque attitude does not change.  The way I see it he will be the best TE in the league in a few years. I welcome my football team back.  In my opinion, BOSS is in large responsible for the Giants SB win last year.


Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: July 22, 2008 10:11 am

Saints make a good deal

which is understandable to me, i just have a problem with our little petey prisco bashing the redskins trade like they committed a murder while the saints trade is like a dream come true to him when in reality it was good for all teams involved.

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