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Are You Fan Enough?

Posted on: June 10, 2008 1:03 am
 

I've been on this site's message boards for awhile now, and it never ceases to amaze me how ignorant some people are about their chosen teams.  Now, I don't mean any offense here, and there are some extremely knowledgeable fans on this site, some of which I've learned a thing or 2 from.  You see, I'm not claiming to know everything about the Yankees, my chosen team, and I'll be the first to admit when I've made a statistical/factual mistake.  Where my opinion is concerned though, well, I'm pretty stubborn.  I just think some people could learn something about being a real fan.  I'm not saying the ignorant people aren't fans, just not fan enough. 

Some ignorant behavior is proposing trades which make absolutely no sense.  Then, there are the posts where the info is just completely wrong.  A fan should know the players on their team, and if they don't, look them up.  I realize everyone has other things to do in their lives, but if you want to be taken seriously as a fan, take your fandom seriously.  It's also frustrating when some fans completely ignore the facts, and you can't have an intelligent conversation with them. 

Ok, I've vented enough.  Here's my opinion of a real fan.   A real fan roots for their team and its' players through thick and thin.  He or she understands how the game is played and its' little nuances.  He or she knows the players' strengths and weaknesses, so will understand why certain decisions might've been made.  He or she will not get into arguments with other fans of their team, but have an intelligent conversation instead because you might actually learn something.  A real fan is open to learning about their team.  He or she will show class and not rag on other teams, especially their rivals.  As a fan, you're representing your team in a way and should act accordingly.  The cat fights on this site are ridiculous sometimes.  Yeah, I call them cat fights because you're fighting on a computer screen where there are no repercussions for your nastiness. 

So, what constitutes a real fan to you?  Please post your comments.  You can also feel free to use this blog item to vent comments about behavior you find irritating. 

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Since: Dec 1, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2009 11:36 pm
 

Are You Fan Enough?

Well, Chuck, I'm sorry your team didn't win the super bowl, but they sure put up a hell of a fight.  It was a great game!  The Cards have nothing to hang their heads about. 




Since: Apr 6, 2008
Posted on: January 25, 2009 11:43 am
 

Are You Fan Enough?

Are You Fan Enough? I am a Cardinal fan, both baseball AND football (STL/AZ) Two things stand out in my fanhood....every year before the football season I predict that my Cardinals will win the Superbowl, have not been right yet, but I think this is our year! I have stuck with this team since they left STL and always will. In Baseball- I do not go to sleep until I have checked the score of the Redbirds, if I doze off, I get up and check the computer for the final and go back to bed!! Pujols out for 3-weeks....ouch!!

 

Like I said at the begining of the year, er 2 decades ago.....Cards win the bowl!!!




Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2008 11:09 pm
 

Are You Fan Enough?

Yankeechick,

I'm not going to add much because- you pretty much nailed it down right there

Agree with you 100%

but as long as wer venting- let not leave out the Fantasy players that : one- forget you dealing with statistical data not REAL PLAYERS, so get off the "who worth more deal"

two- the ones that offer you a bench rider for two allstars because they're doing you a favor

three- the ones that get insulted because you offer them a trade that "offends" them because they think they personnally know the player.

And lastly- everybody can manage to keep it CLEAN, because in the heat of the moment- when your talking you might say something you regret- but when you're typing it out, you have the opportunity to erase it before you hit "SEND"

I'm a big boy- if you disagree with me just say so- I don't need to be reminded of my possible parental heritage and lineage, or presumable IQ, or combinations of the two.

Lets just have some fun- its Baseball, that's what its for.

 




Since: Dec 1, 2007
Posted on: July 21, 2008 12:17 pm
 

Are You Fan Enough?

I realize I'm way late in responding here, so I apologize.  Badger, I agree that there are true fans who don't necessarily know all the stats, etc.  As long as you root for the team through thick and thin and aren't a fair weather friend, you're a true fan.  What bothers me is all the ignorance I read on these boards from people who say they're diehard fans.  I mean, there's some outrageous stuff.  That's my point.  How can someone call themselves a fan, talk out of their ass and be completely wrong?  If you don't know, you don't know, and that's fine as long as you don't pretend you do. 

Thanks, Warplanegirl, I appreciate the kudos.  I try to keep on the Yankees as much as possible.  I admit that I don't always know what I'm talking about though, I have made mistakes.  Don't tell anyone, lol.  Yeah, Joba has worked out well as a starter.  I honestly wasn't sure that he would because as you know, there are no absolutes in baseball.  I thought it was worth a shot though, and I didn't think he should be held back because of his value in the bullpen.  People have different perceptions as to value, and in my opinion, they're misconceptions.  A player's value to a team shouldn't be calculated by how many innings he pitches or how many times he bats.  It should be determined by how he performs in the role he's given, and how that fits in with the rest of the team. 

As for Dave Robertson, he seems like the real deal.  My only issue with him is he barely spent any time in the minors.  He did play college ball though, so maybe he's ready.  I'd also be a little concerned about his control.  It doesn't seem to be a major issue now, but it was in the past.  His stuff looks good, and he's pitched well, but it's a small sampling, so I'm reserving judgement.  I'm glad they gave him a shot though, can't hurt.  Worse comes to worse, he gets sent back down for more seasoning. 




Since: Jan 8, 2008
Posted on: June 30, 2008 10:55 am
 

Are You Fan Enough?

I know I'm chiming in way, way late here, but my computer was down for a couple of weeks. Just had to say I loved your post, yankeechick, and I loved a lot of the comments here.

It reminded me of my mom, who is the most die-hard Mets fan I know, but still struggles with strategy. She's loved them when they first started and were awfuler than awful, and of course she's rejoiced for days on end when they've won the Series. But for example, if a pitcher has, say, an 0-2 or 1-2 count against a batter and he throws outside the zone to try to get the batter to chase, she still thinks it's a bad pitch because it's not a strike and she yells at the pitcher on tv. My Dad and I will look at each other and just smile. And that's just one example. She also takes naps during the afternoon if they're playing out on the west coast so she can stay up late to watch them. I have to admire her enthusiasm.

Anyway, I also wanted to tell you that you were right about the merit of having Joba become a starter during the season - the discussion we had as the season was just about to start. I'd argued that he could influence more games from the bullpen than the 20 or so he'd get transitioning into a starting role. I also was a little hesitant about his effectiveness after 4-5 outs, but obviously he's not having problems with that either. He looks great. So, for what its worth, you were right on. I know you know your stuff.

I'm curious what you think about David Robertson. He obviously wasn't lights out yesterday but he looks like he's got potential and obviously his AA and AAA numbers look real good.

Finally, I love your avatar - even better than the last one.  :-)  Please don't make him go away.


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Since: Jan 24, 2007
Posted on: June 17, 2008 7:05 pm
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Since: Feb 24, 2008
Posted on: June 17, 2008 3:36 pm
 

Are You Fan Enough?

i agree you are on my favorites list because of this blog my user name and picture do not show i am a fan but i am. if you are a die hard fan you have to know at least 10 players who play for whatever team you are a fan of me personaly am a fan of the cardinals because im from st. louis.

heres 10 players for you: pujols, skip shumaker, rick ankiel, joel pieniero, jason isringhousan,troy glaus, and many more my hands are to




Since: Dec 1, 2007
Posted on: June 12, 2008 5:35 pm
 

Are You Fan Enough?

I applaud you GardenBoy for obviously being a true fan.  I'll admit I don't know the answers to all your questions.  I saw the play where 2 players were thrown out at home.  I knew that about the 2001 series.  I do know what the Boston Massacre really is, and I could probably tell you every retired number.  What you're talking about in regards to fans at games equals the point I'm trying to get across about these boards. 



Since: Dec 1, 2007
Posted on: June 12, 2008 5:30 pm
 

Are You Fan Enough?

Hey, Chuck Dee, what's going on with your Diamondbacks???  I'm standing by my prediction that they'll be in the WS, but it looks like they're going to have a tougher time getting there than I thought.  Oh, and they're killing one of my fantasy teams by never giving Dan Haren any run support.   When you have a chance, thank Mark Reynolds for coming out of his slump, and tell Justin Upton to break out of his. 

Ok, I had to get that out of my system.  I appreciate everyone's comments.  One of my biggest problems is unsupported statements.  In other words, don't talk out of your ass.  There are some downright ludicrous posts like Johan Santana isn't a strikeout pitcher.  That's just an example of what I'm talking about.  I never actually read that here, but it's seriously as ignorant as other posts I've read.  Then, there are the people who repeat the same thing over and over, even after they've been corrected or proven wrong.  For example, there are some fans who continuously bring up the topic of trading for a closer even though the team already has one.  Now, yes, they could set up, but why trade for a closer turned setup guy when you have 2 outstanding closers in the minors you could use in that same role.  People have no idea who's in the minor league system.  The outlandish trades are another thing. 

I'm not really talking about rivalries although there are some people who take it to far on here.  Like I said, in essence, you're representing your team as a fan, so you should do it with class. 

As for my fandom, well, I keep up on the Yankees as much as possible.  I watch every game I can, and the ones where I'm at work, I'll pull up the scoreboard on my computer to check on them.  I admit I'm a baseball fanatic.  Not so much football.  I'll admit I'm not up on the Giants, but I've been rooting for them since I was a kid, and I've never stopped. 




Since: Jun 12, 2008
Posted on: June 12, 2008 2:36 pm
 

Are You Fan Enough?

When someone asks me "are you a Yankees fan?" I always reply "I'm not a fan, but I follow the Yankees.  Fans are the idiots that don't know what they're talking about or doing."  That is the true difference.  They're fanatical.  There’s a certain amount of chaos and haphazardness that goes with that word.  I’d rather not be labeled that.     <o:p></o:p>

A fan will call everyone they know during the bottom of the ninth inning because they got on the "kiss cam".  They'll leave their house 20 minutes before the first pitch and wonder why it's the fourth inning when they finally get to there seats.  They'll mispronounce and misspell names.  They'll actually buy beer and food in the stadium and pass on the chance to tailgate in the parking lot.  They think Bob Shepherd is actually sitting in centerfield.<o:p></o:p>

I want to talk to the person who knows every retired number and who wore it.  Who knows that the second game of the 2001 division series with <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Oakland</st1:place></s
t1:city> was held up until after 9:00PM to wait until after the president addressed the nation.  Who remembe
rs where they were when Jim Abbott through his no-hitter and how it is possible for a man with one arm to start a 1-6-3 double play in the same game!  Who can tell me how it is possible that two guys can be thrown out at home during the same play.  Who can tell me what the Boston Massacre really is.<o:p></o:p>

That's who I want to talk to.  Someone who follows the team.     <o:p></o:p>

 



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