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drink409 Level: Superstar Since: Sep 5, 2008 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 5:59 pm
Score: 82
Source: Martz fined $20,000This is NFL BS...but Martz should have had Hill spike the ball to create 4th down when he saw where the ball was spotted. That's on him not the refs. |
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Aliens509 Level: Superstar Since: Dec 18, 2006 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 6:00 pm
Score: 91
Source: Martz fined $20,000Martz is a cry baby. Instead of accepting the fact that he called a bad play, he decided to blame the officiating. The only thing that I don't like about the fines is that the NFL is telling everyone, coaches, players, and owners that they can't say a single word about how bad the officiating in any games are or else they will be fined, I think that is very unfair as there are some calls by the officials that are questionable and if the calls dictates the outcome of the game, I think the players,coaches and owners should have a right to speak out and address their frustrations or even question the calls. I don't think Goodell is being fair at all. |
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calciomotti Level: Superstar Since: Nov 15, 2006 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 6:04 pm
Score: 94
Source: Martz fined $20,000Well deserved he was fined. No matter how frustrated he was feeling, running the clock down 20 extra seconds by his inexperienced QB had nothing to do with the officiating. We all know officials aren't perfect, and I do think the ball should have been spotted closer, but that's beside the point. |
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UKnowMoreThanMe Level: Superstar Since: Apr 3, 2007 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 6:32 pm
Score: 89
Source: Martz fined $20,000If you really pay attention, it seems that the players/coaches that criticize officials when the officials had nothing to do with whatever happens. You really don't see too many fines when people mention obvious errors. But then again, most guys are smart enough to not say anything when there are major officiating flaws. Anyway, the point is, if you have problems with how a game was officiated, you take it up with the league, you send them a professional complaint and they deal with it. It should be an internal issue. To take those feelings public is unprofessional and the NFL disciplines people for that conduct. The media will not solve your problems. If you want to say the NFL won't either, that is fine...but don't go public with your drivel because that just pisses the bosses off...and the bosses can do and say whatever they want, you have to deal with it or face a fine or suspension. It's that simple. The officials had nothing to do with Martz's issues, which is exactly why he's out $20,000 for his hissy fit. |
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UKnowMoreThanMe Level: Superstar Since: Apr 3, 2007 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 6:36 pm
Score: 89
Source: Martz fined $20,000If you really pay attention, it seems that the players/coaches that criticize officials when the officials had nothing to do with whatever happens are the one's that get fined. Forgot to finish my sentence. |
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smithk79 Level: Amateur Since: Nov 19, 2008 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 6:44 pm
Score: 47
Source: Martz fined $20,000I disagree with the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, NASCAR or anyone else for fines levied against coaches, crew chiefs, owners, players, drivers, etc. for voicing their disagreement with an officials ruling or call. The last time I checked we do live in America where one of our constitutional rights is "Freedom of Speech"! Fine the heck out of people for dangerous hits, flagarant fouls, wreckless driving or anything else that endangers other participants. Fining someone for something that they say just because they don't agree with a call or decision...........The absolute most rediculous way any sport authority ever used to make money. |
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niner punk Level: Superstar Since: Feb 25, 2007 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 7:13 pm
Score: 92
Source: Martz fined $20,000Too much risk in that scenario. There was 3 seconds left, the clock started on the whistle and STOPS on the whistle after the spike. if there's any hesitation on the final whistle, the center snapping the ball, or anything the game would end on the spike. Then everyone would criticize Martz for not just running a play which he had ample opportunity to do. The NFL should know that it is hard to hear the officials announcement of where the ball will be spotted as it comes after the annoucement of whether or not the call stands. The crowd reacts to the call, (tons of noise), and then he quickly says where the ball will be spotted. Unless you are watching on TV deciphering that exactly is hard to do. Martz had a point, it cost the Niners a division win, which is huge. |
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UKnowMoreThanMe Level: Superstar Since: Apr 3, 2007 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 8:08 pm
Score: 88
Source: Martz fined $20,000The last time I checked we do live in America where one of our constitutional rights is "Freedom of Speech"! "Freedom of Speech" does not mean "Freedom from Consequence" It means knowing you must deal with the consequences that come with what you "say." Being fined by your bosses for something you say is not even remotely the same as getting thrown in jail for something you say. |
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uradufuss Level: All-Star Since: Nov 25, 2007 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 8:12 pm
Score: 92
When will officials be fined for blowing games?We are talking about games that fans and networks have paid a lot of money to watch, and broadcast. There is no room for major screw ups anymore, in this age of replays. |
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Fred Coste Level: Superstar Since: Mar 21, 2008 |
Posted on: November 19, 2008 9:32 pm
Score: 89
Source: Martz fined $20,000"Freedom of Speech" does not mean "Freedom from Consequence" Actually, that's almost exactly what it means. It grants the Constitutional right to voice your opinion in a civil manner provided that you are not threatening the safety of others. It's freedom from persecution or unjust action for voicing your thoughts. I'm actually surprised that the ACLU isn't all over this. Any other person in America can walk around work talking about how crappy their company is, as long as their comments aren't construed as insubordination. Players and coaches griping about a bad call have every right that politicians and news anchors have that just spent 8 years pointing out the follies of our president. If you want to fine someone for making unprofessional remarks, or verbal attacks against an official, so be it. But levying a fine for stating publicly that you disagree with a call is ridiculous. |