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Gruden, Allen firings don't add up

Posted on: January 16, 2009 7:03 pm
Edited on: January 16, 2009 7:15 pm

Almost every off-season there is a head coach firing that catches you by surprise, but that has changed. Because this offseason there are two: Mike Shanahan and Jon Gruden. Tampa Bay's firing of Gruden and general manager Bruce Allen is stunning because of this: It was only a year ago both were signed to extensions running through 2011, which meant the club is willing to eat an estimated $20 million in combined salaries. Denver owner Pat Bowlen was willing to do the same thing with his head coach, and, pardon me, but isn't there a recession going on? Apparently, not in the NFL. At least Gruden had a winning season, but, like Shanahan, he faded down the stretch. In fact his team went from 9-3 to a lackluster 9-7 finish, capping off the nose dive by blowing a 10-point lead to the Oakland Raiders in the season finale. The Philadelphia Eagles would like to offer their condolences, Jon, but congratulate you on a job well done ... for them. i know the Glazers are committed to championships, and Gruden gave them one. Shanahan gave Bowlen two. But this is a league of What Have You Done for Me Lately? Or, as Jerry Glanville once said, it's the NFL, which stands for Not For Long. Shanahan missed the playoffs the last three seasons; Gruden missed them four of the past six. I understand the Glazers' frustration; what I don't understand is why make this move now. I mean, they could have done this after the club completed its collapse in late December. So why now? And why take Allen with Gruden. I guess that's what is next. Something must have happened, or something must have been said or someone must have come up with an idea for a seismic change. And by that I mean that maybe, just maybe, the Bucs go after one of the experienced free-agent coaches out there or a prominent college coach. Maybe the temptation was too much for the Glazers to resist because they just opened the door for a head coach who wants authority over personnel. All I know is that I find it odd that you wait until almost three weeks after the season to fire a head coach who just completed a winning season and delivered your franchise its only Super Bowl. What was that Jerry Glanville said again?

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Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: January 18, 2009 1:15 pm

Gruden, Allen firings don't add up

I don't buy the arguement that Gruden won the Superbowl with Dungy's players. We had 7 new starters on offense when we won the superbowl. If Dungy was so good why was Gruden able to win the Superbowl with Dungy's players, but Dungy couldn't win it with his own players. The bottom line is Gruden had to go. He lost he locker room and his drafts were horrible. It was time for a change when we fired Dungy and it is time for a change now.

Since: Nov 13, 2008
Posted on: January 17, 2009 11:47 am

Gruden, Allen firings don't add up

Gruden did win a Superbowl... with Dungy's team. Hasn't done much since but scowl. By promoting Raheem Morris from within they'll avoid the big contract a Cowher or Shanahan might require, help pay off that 20 mil. Taking 3 weeks to decide instead of an immediate firing may mean the decision was more carefully thought out.

Since: Aug 12, 2006
Posted on: January 17, 2009 12:28 am


What kind of mess are you smoking?!!!  Gruden has become a PR NIGHTMARE for the Glazers.  He collapsed late LAST YEAR as well but got away with it because of disasters in Carolina, Atlanta and New Orleans.  He SHOULD NOT have made the playoffs after 2007, but he did and PROMPTLY LOST.  This is a GREAT DECISION to dump him.  He will NEVER win another Super Bowl...unless he takes Dungy's place again!!

Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: January 16, 2009 11:39 pm
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Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: January 16, 2009 11:15 pm

Rahim Morris

Will be the new head coach in TB.  He started year as defensive back coach, then was named D coordinator after Monte Kiffin left for Tennessee and now will be Bucs new head coach.  Nice month Rahim is having.

Since: Jan 16, 2009
Posted on: January 16, 2009 11:05 pm

Gruden, Allen firings don't add up

I like it get those two bums out of here. Get a new coach and GM that is not scared to use money they have, spend it and make a playoff bound team. Gruden treats all his players like garbage. He has small man syndrom

Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: January 16, 2009 10:55 pm

Gruden, Allen firings don't add up

Sorry dude, gruden is not even in the same class as Cowher.  Nuff said..

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: January 16, 2009 10:43 pm

Gruden, Allen firings don't add up

Gruden firing does add up. Gruden left the Raiders, they were on the cusp of getting to the Super Bowl, as was evidenced by the fact the Buccaneers and Raiders played in the Super Bowl the year Gruden left. Gruden inherited an excellent defense from Dungy, obvious a Super Bowl winning caliber defense. He lost those players season by season. Hasn't replaced them either and the one's that remained got old.

Shanahan, same thing, who doesn't get to Super Bowls and at worst, lose them with John Elway and those teams ? I agree these are 2 coaches that'll wind up with jobs and like 1-15 Cam Cameron, will get their revenge/satisfaction, by beating their former employers. Are the Raiders still looking for a coach ? Shanahan or Gruden would be a nice fit to take Russell and McFadden to the next level in the NFL ?

Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: January 16, 2009 10:43 pm

Gruden, Allen firings don't add up

shooting from the hip for sure. heck, they make dan snyder-a.k.a. pretzel boy look sharp, but who they gonna brag about too?

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: January 16, 2009 10:43 pm

Gruden, Allen firings don't add up

What is with all the praise being heaped on Gruden? What did he ever accomplish? Inspiring an offense that was a complete embarrassment for most of the year (and most of their history) to be fundamentally sound for the stretch run? He certainly had nothing to do with that 2002 team's historic defense.

Since that year, Chuckie won 7, 5, 11, 4, 9 and 9 games. Zero playoff wins in 2 berths in 6 years. 'Nuff said.

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