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Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

Posted on: June 18, 2009 5:13 pm
Edited on: June 18, 2009 5:23 pm
 
So Donte Stallworth is suspended indefinitely. Where's the surprise? That was a slam-dunk. Now let's see what happens next, and I'll be surprised only if Stallworth is allowed to play this season.

Remember, the Rams' Leonard Little was suspended eight games when he pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter in a 1998 accident -- and that was under a more lenient commissioner. Roger Goodell is a guy who sat down "Pacman" Jones one season for a series of run-ins, even though he never was never found guilty, and that should serve as a guide here.

Goodell is all about cleaning up this league -- or, at least, trying to clean it up -- and there's no way he goes soft on Stallworth. Stallworth's attorney said the wide receiver "acted like a man" in stopping after hitting a pedestrian "and cooperated fully." Great. He still killed somebody while driving drunk. Now he suffers the consequences. He got off easy with a 30-day jail sentence only because he entered into a plea agreement, but Goodell won't be as forgiving. There are no deals with the commissioner.

I say Stallworth is gone for this season, and that's not exactly going out on a limb. As Goodell pointed out, Stallworth's conduct was "inexcusable," and his actions caused "irrepable harm to the victim and his family," as well as the NFL. The hammer comes next. Donte' Stallworth doesn't play this year.
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Since: Aug 23, 2007
Posted on: June 22, 2009 3:31 pm
 

Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

Thanks all for correcting me that he was not in a crosswalk.  Even so... I still stand by everything I said.

Also, thanks for that fantastic physics lesson by the previous poster... however, the fact of the matter is that Stallworth was speeding and was driving drunk.  You can speculate all you want about what might have happened if he wasn't speeding and if he wasn't drunk, but he was, so he has to face the consequences of that.




Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: June 21, 2009 7:40 pm
 

Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

I think Donte Stallworth should not only be suspended for the rest of 2009 I think the league should honestly consider suspending him for good. He Killed a man while legally over the limit. He plead guilty to man slaughter. Mike Vick was suspended for 1 season following dog fighting charges, if the cost is 1 year for a dog the punishment for killing a person should at the very least be worse.



Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: June 21, 2009 12:31 pm
 

Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

 

Eyewitnesses said that the light turned red and a car stopped. Then Stallworth gunned it and went around the stopped car to run the red light.


      
;  I'm surely not the Einstein that you are, but when I'm crossing a street, and I see the light turn red and a car stop, I'm kinda thinking it's my turn to cross. If all of the sudden a car swerved around the stopped car and killed me I would only ask that my family remain defiant and makes this worthless A-hole pay. I would also hope that they would rid the world of all ignorance...starting with you.
What are you talking about?! I'm not defending what Stallworth did, but the man he hit jaywalked in the middle of a 6-Lane causeway. According to the police report it is a 6-lane causeway that is divided by a concrete barrier which the man he hit had to step over to get across the road. A crosswalk was only a short distance away, but the man instead crossed the middle of the road. Also, according to the police report, the stoplight at the crosswalk was green at the time...





Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: June 21, 2009 12:21 pm
 

Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

Chicago-Pack------The man he hit was not in a crosswalk. If he had been, though, he'd be serving much more than 30 days in jail.



Since: May 26, 2007
Posted on: June 21, 2009 3:14 am
 

Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

Stallworth:
1) Was Drunk - over the legal limit
2) Was Speeding - also illegal
3) And hit and killed a man in a crosswalk


  1. Yes, he was intoxicated. He was over the legal limit. He deserved to be charged with DUI under the state law. I firmly believe that offenders should be charged with DUI, being the victim of a DUI hit-and-run myself (luckily no injuries, just $1500 of damage to my car).
  2. He acknowledges speeding, but the exact speed he was traveling is unknown. Based on skid patterns, the crime scene investigators can only estimate that the car was traveling at 50mph. There was no radar on him, so his actual speed will never be known.
  3. uh, Reyes was NOT in the crosswalk. That is where the plea deal comes into play. Stallworth, the Police, and eyewitnesses all agree that Reyes was rushing to catch a bus and was not paying attention. He was not in the crosswalk at the time of the incident, and that is the cause of the accident. 

Now, for a brief physics lesson. Newton's First Law of Motion states that an object in motion tends to stay in motion tends to stay in motion until acted upon by an outside force. The second law states that force is equal to mass times accelleration. Why do I bring these up? Well, both apply in this particular case.

Lets take out the DUI factor here, and lets even take out the speeding factor here. The rest of the scenario is the same: Stallworth is driving towards a home he owns nearby, driving through the construction zone at the posted limit of 40mph. Reyes is leaving work, rushing to catch the bus. He runs out in the street without looking, in front of the oncoming car. At 40mph, if i remember correctly from my drivers ed course some 4 years ago, it takes roughly 60 feet to decelerate to zero, depending on the condition and type of brakes. SO, unless Stallworth is in excess of 75 or so feet, he's most likely going to hit the victim.

Now for the second law, again, we'll use the same scenario as above. As the car decelerates and makes impact, the energy of the moving car is transferred into Reyes body. This is the Force of the impact. Force=Mass x Accel. In this case, the force is the weight of the car times his deceleration. Even at 20mph, the force would have been enough to cause serious harm to Reyes, if it didn't kill him directly. Considering his age, a 20mph collission might well have caused the same result. I say this based on the knowledge it takes only about 350lb of force to break a human bone, and the impact would have been well in excess of 1000lb of force.

I am not in any way condoning what Stallworth did. I detest drunk drivers, however I feel the suspension is too harsh considering the circumstances. Eliminating the factors of the inhibited driving and speeding, the odds are that if the other conditions were the same Reyes still would be severely injured if not killed. Also to consider were Stallworth's immediate confession of guilt and his promise to compensate the family and settle the matter as quickly as the family wanted to. He didn't pull a Pacman and avoid speaking to the police. he didn't try to get away with it. The initial Not Guilty plea is a somewhat standard practice when a settlement/plea deal is being hammered out but is not yet ready.

Personally, I hope Stallworth does get to play so he can continue to help Reyes family and help provide them with the income lost when he was tragically killed.



Since: May 25, 2007
Posted on: June 20, 2009 10:13 pm
 

Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

I consistantly drive tanked up on a jug handle of Gin. Hopefully, the first person I kill while I'm out having fun driving drunk will be one of you foolish Stallworth supporters.



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Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: June 20, 2009 10:13 pm
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Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: June 20, 2009 6:38 pm
 

Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

Yeah, we wouldn't be talking about anything other than Donte dying of a alcohol induced coma if he had a BAC of 1.26. The sad thing is that a .126 is only a couple drinks. Still, you kill a man, you have to face some consequences. Although, to me, it is a slap in the face to let him back into football at all if you think his actions are detrimental to the sport. I, personally, would be fired with no chance at being rehired. If you just suspend him, it's actually not saying he did something that the league won't tolerate, just that they want to punish him again. As far as I heard, double jeopardy can only apply to soldiers under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So, either boot him out of the league forever, or nothing. The one thing that was never actually stated was what charge he eventually pleaded guilty to and whether it is a felony count. I think any felonious count deserves lifetime ban from playing. Heck, you can't even get a job at Dairy Queen with a felony.



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: June 20, 2009 6:25 pm
 

Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

You need to get your facts straight-------the man wasn't in a crosswalk. Still doesn't make hitting him right, but still have to get the facts straight. So most of your arguement has no point. Just play in on he hit a man. Regardless, if Stallworth wasn't drunk (or impaired because they can use a BAC of under .08 against you also), Reyes would have been at fault for jaywalking and nothing would have come of it other than yet another tradegy and the family wouldn't even get the cash settlement. I still think Donte hurt himself by saying he had time to flash his lights. My reaction would have been to veer off the road or lock the brakes or anything that would have kept somebody from getting hit.



Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: June 20, 2009 6:23 pm
 

Only shock will be if Stallworth plays in '09

Peace to you my fine feathered friend


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