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Chiefs and Jones: Not a good idea

Posted on: March 9, 2010 7:17 pm
There's an axiom I've long sworn by in the NFL, and that's this: If you're going to be bad, be bad young. Don't be bad old.

Translation: Give time to young and inexperienced players, not vets. You want players with bright futures, not long and storied pasts.  Unfortunately, that is not the way the Kansas City Chiefs are operating.

I don't get the Chiefs. A couple of years ago they had a terrific draft, understanding that they'd hit rock bottom and determined to retool from the ground up. But then they changed administrations and coaching staffs and started courting veteran players -- like running back Thomas Jones, who signed with the club Tuesday.

I know the guy was productive a year ago, and I know he scored 14 touchdowns, or five more than the Chiefs' Jamaal Charles. But he turns 32 this season, and, I'm sorry, I don't want any 32-year-old running backs taking up space on the roster of a 4-12 team.

Jones wasn't expensive. Reports have him signing for $3 million this season and $2 million in 2011, but that's not the point. He's old. He won't play special teams. And he's taking snaps from somebody with a future. If you're going to be bad, Kansas City, be bad with young players, not with Thomas Jones.

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Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2010 9:14 pm

Chiefs and Jones: Not a good idea

the chiefs add a quality player and person in the locker room and you still poo poo on it, Jones will be an excellent mentor to Charles and show some of these young players the chiefs have added the last 4 years what it takes to win BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW YET. This team has 14 wins in the last 4 years? How does adding a back that ran for 1400 yards and 14 tds hurt a team you boob? Im starting to wonder how some of you cbs writers have jobs. if this hurts the chiefs by paying a quality player and person next to nothing to improve the locker room then the chiefs will only win 0-1-or 2 games next year, repost this story in January of next year to see how stupid you actually are... Or just stop writing about the chiefs because you haven't said anything positive the entire time ive suffered through your "stories".

Since: May 30, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2010 9:11 pm

Good point Judge!!!

Why get Thomas Jones? Bad move. Why get another talented RB to compliment Jamaal Charles in a 2-back system when we could run him into the ground like we did Priest Holmes, and Larry Johnson because that worked so well. (Please notice sarcasm.)

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2010 9:02 pm

Thomas Jones and doubters

Had him in chicago, where they shipped him off

Tampa had him, and when they let him play he ripped it up only to be let go

Jets get him and after he produced again, they let him go...although with Shonn Greene I can see why

Maybe...just MAYBE the Chiefs need a rock solid VET who is a winner to help change the CULTURE in the locker room

Dont doubt Jones, he will be an asset for the Chiefs, and what better way to help out a young back than to get a tough as nails vet?

Geez, Id take him back on the Bucs instead of some of the guys we have....

Since: Aug 13, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2010 9:00 pm

Chiefs and Jones: Not a good idea

So Jamaal Charles is still as the workhorse, has a viable and still valuable backup. Someone to split the carries and keep Charles fresh. Someone to work at the goalline in some situations and even more importantly tutor the kid in the right way to prepare and go about the season. Nice to a have a mentor with some tread left on the tires would can help show this boatload of kids how to win.

The alternative at back up RB was...Kolby Smith? Good job by Pioli and crew. Smith in the #3 role is not too bad, and Thomas Jones has at least 2 more productive years left.

Now the Chiefs won't have to blow a draft pick on a RB when so much else is needed at other positions.

Since: Apr 28, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2010 8:48 pm

Chiefs and Jones: Not a good idea

Actually, I disagree, within reason. Herm's famous philosophy stemmed from his "taping it together" comment, but in the NFL, it is worth it to tape it together because teams are built on the entire draft, not just the first round. Therefore, after the first round is over, everybody is essentially on an equal plane as far as finding the guys they want. Basically, after the first round, everybody is "available." If a guy hasn't been picked before you pick for the first time, then you had your chance. What I mean is that a 3rd rounder could have easily been picked in the 2nd round by another team who valued his position need.
I guess I'm saying I didn't like the 'blow it up' philosophy because the Chiefs just ended up with bad young players who did not turn out to build the foundation at all. Taping it together could have the Chiefs in a situation now where they might only need to add a couple of players to go from, say, 8-8, to 10-6 rather than hoping for an 8 game turnaround.
What's more is, this move is so easy. You needed a part time inside runner and you got him. MOney is not an issue, so just take him. Problem solved. It neither prohibits the next solution, nor impedes other moves. Take it and go.

Since: Nov 24, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2010 8:31 pm

Chiefs and Jones: Not a good idea

Judge, I generally like your stuff...but...this take is ignorant (note: not "stupid", just lacking in "perspective and knowledge").  ;-)


It's a 2-back league now man!  You need two capable backs and it's best to have them of slightly different styles.  Charles is a poor man's Chris Johnson and is a young stud prospect.  But with his size and relative inexperience, you don't just throw him out to the wolves next year.  You need a solid veteran alongside him and simply put...Jones is a beast.  He's a great option to take the pressure off Charles, provide some great leadership, and gives the Chiefs a true short-yardage back (the weakness of Charles' game).  He comes relatively cheap and is only on the books for a couple years.  It's a PERFECT FIT for KC. 

The Chiefs got rid of an awful coach and GM a couple years ago.  They've loaded themselves with a front office and coaching staff rich in recent Super Bowl glory.  They are aggressively re-newing a once-proud franchise that had grown old and stale.  They aren't without mistakes (i.e. Jared Allen) but they're making more "right" moves than "wrong" moves.  This is a homerun, IMHO.

Since: Dec 22, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2010 8:22 pm

Earth to Clark Judge........are you there?

Judge, you are acting like this is a really bad signing. Why? Have you looked at the rushing yards this guy has put up over the last 3 years? I would say it's a great FA pickup, especially for someone who's not even going to start for KC. Charles is the workhorse, it's not like they signed Jones to carry the ball 20 times a game like he did in NY. He will be a great veteran mentor for Charles, and will see probably 10 carries a game, mostly around the goal line. Now they can focus on filling in other positions with their draft picks and not worry about selecting a backup RB. Great signing, terrible article.

Since: Jan 15, 2010
Posted on: March 9, 2010 8:20 pm

KISS - keep it simple stupid

Didn't Judge write the same thing about Favre last year? I guess he didn't learn a thing about Favre. The bottom line truth that ultimately matters is who cares if TJ is 72, 24, or 98 years old? If he can still put up 1,200 yards a season rushing then who cares about his age? Just keep the philosophy simple. Do me a favor Judge and replace your half page article with the truth...and that is, age is irrelevant when you're still producing at the top of your career, and that's exactly what TJ has done over the past couple years. I'd rather look like a dumbass and get it right than to look like a smartass and get it wrong.

Since: Sep 9, 2007
Posted on: March 9, 2010 7:51 pm

Chiefs and Jones: Not a good idea

Oh Judge... you're so out of touch it's sad. You're like the old man talking out the window at a nursing home. Sportsline really needs to upgrade it's analysts. They need to go young maybe. Jones isn't going to take any carries away from Charles. Charles isn't big enough to handle the full time load. If you were paying any attention, you would know that Charles was absolutely beat up at the end of the season last year. We've got a huge amount of holes to fill that we can focus on in the draft. Being that we already had a quality running back, it made running backs low priority in comparison.

Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2010 7:51 pm

Chiefs and Jones: Not a good idea

     I'm guessing Charles will be the workhorse, and Jones will be the goal-line back.  He had a nice t.d. total last year, but most of them were 1 yd. runs.  He should be a good "change-of-pace" back to give Charles a breather now and then.  It seems like you're trying to turn an addition into a subtraction here.


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