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Quinn deal no surprise

Posted on: March 14, 2010 6:05 pm
Edited on: March 14, 2010 6:51 pm

The Brady Quinn deal should have caught nobody by surprise, especially Brady Quinn. The minute Cleveland signed Jake Delhomme, Quinn was finished with the Browns.

So Cleveland deals him to Denver where the Broncos probably discover what Cleveland did -- that Quinn is not a very accurate quarterback. Nevertheless, coach Josh McDaniels prides himself on working with quarterbacks, and if he can find something here that Cleveland did not then maybe, just maybe, Quinn has a chance. It's a long shot, but it shows that Denver is eager to find a young arm to challenge Kyle Orton. Plus, it didn't cost the Broncos much.

McDaniels is close to former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis, and Weis loves Quinn. In all likelihood he sold his former pupil (the two were together at New England) on Quinn's smarts, telling him that he could be the perfect guy to run the Denver offense. If nothing else, he sold him on it being a risk worth taking because, given what you could find, the risk wasn't much.

All I know is that for Cleveland to give up on the guy speaks volumes. Because he was from Ohio, he was popular with Browns' fans who desperately wanted him to succeed. Then there's team president Mike Holmgren, who has a history of developing young quarterbacks -- which should've boded well for Quinn. Plus there was an opening, with Seneca Wallace the only challenger before Delhomme arrived on the scene.

I see where Wallace said he intends to be the starter, and that's great. Only if you've seen Seneca Wallace play quarterback he should never be the starter for anyone. No disrespect to Wallace, but as a quarterback he makes a better running back. Anyway, with all that on Quinn's side, he still couldn't make, and good luck in Denver. Maybe a change of scenery works in his favor ... but I doubt it.

Listen, Cleveland needs a good young quarterback, but the Browns bailed on Quinn after only three seasons. I know this regime didn't draft him, but Holmgren isn't going to jettison young talent. He discarded Quinn, and he did it relatively quickly -- for a 35-year-old who was cut by Carolina and who has 9 touchdown passes and 23 interceptions over his last 12 starts. That tells me all I need to know about Quinn's future.


Category: NFL

Since: Oct 25, 2008
Posted on: March 15, 2010 10:10 am

Quinn deal no surprise

Riiiiight...Holmgren had nothing to do with any of it.  He doesn't know what he's doing.  Denver just aquired the QB that will make all Bronco fans forget about Elway.  If you say it enough times it just may come true. 

Since: Oct 19, 2007
Posted on: March 15, 2010 10:01 am

Quinn deal no surprise


While we appreciate your pitty, B. Quinn is going to make you sing the praises of K. Orton!  Believe that!

Since: Apr 27, 2009
Posted on: March 15, 2010 8:54 am

Quinn deal no surprise

NFL quarterback is a position that often takes a number of years to grow into.   Brady Quinn has some potential and still may develop into a solid QB -- that remains to be seen.  As a Browns fan, I wish him all the best, unless he is playing against the Browns!   

Since: Mar 4, 2009
Posted on: March 15, 2010 8:31 am

Quinn deal no surprise

You guys talk about a Holmgren and being an evalutor of talent...  Steve Young's coach at BYU, ok, but LaVell Edwards was the head coach.  Then at SF, Young already was a hot shot QB out of the USFL (Los Angeles Express I believe) and then he went to SF to back up Joe "freakin" Montana...  He was a glorified clipboard holder for several years so he had plenty of time to learn the offense under Coach Walsh and Seifert.  Holmgren at that time was doing what Walsh and Seifert told him.  Also, the Superbowl Young won, Coach Shanahan was the OC, not Holmgren.  Maybe Shanny had more to do with the Superbowl victory? 

OK, so there are three guys.  I don't count Brunell, Brooks, or Warner.  Warner wasn't great until he was installed with the Greatest Show on Turf.  If Holmgren was such a great evaluator, why did he let Warner go to the Arena league first? 

Again, you have Farve (who will make any coach look good), Hasselbeck has made a Superbowl, and Young I can barely count..  That is not a super track record, he just got lucky having Farve most of his career. 

Since: Oct 25, 2008
Posted on: March 15, 2010 7:15 am

Quinn deal no surprise

Who do you think was the QB coach from 1986-1988 and offensive coordinator from 1989-1991 for San Fransisco?  What about Steve Young's QB coach at BYU?  Perhaps you have heard of him...Mike Holmgren

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: March 15, 2010 2:29 am

Quinn deal no surprise

Holmgren is passed his prime. If he valued Seneca Wallace so much then why didn't he start him over Hasselbeck? Besides, Holmgren is no longer the Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator or Quarterbacks Coach. Have you ever heard of a GM or President of Football Operations wasting countless hours tutoring a QB?I sure haven't. Holmgren got rid of Quinn because he is going to draft a QB in the late rounds, preferably round 6. Holmgren is going to grab somebody most people have never heard of and make him into the second coming of Matt Hasselbeck. Lol...too bad Bill Walsh is no longer around. He really did know QBs. He got a couple of QBs and turned them into All Pros. Perhaps you have heard of them...Joe Montana and Steve Young.

Since: Apr 27, 2007
Posted on: March 15, 2010 2:13 am

Quinn deal no surprise

A side bar on the quarterbacks that have left Holmgren lead teams... Mark Brunell, Aaron Brooks, Kurt Warner. All of whom hit their prime after leaving his teams...  I have tons of respect for him and there is no way any of them could have replaced Farve when he has playing amazing ball in the 90's.  Maybe Holmgren knows about mediocrity, I mean there is a big difference between league average and top of the league players, and maybe he knew that when it comes to depth behind center it's basically a wash.  He maybe has his eyes on a late round sleeper and is building up a solid back-up plan in case the rookie isn't ready.
I mean, everything is really speculation.  Cleveland could, from the sound of it, have a lethal one two punch at runningback that could throw defenses offf balance.  What then, a game controlling quarterback is all that is needed, which is actually what Delholme is probably best at.
Anyway, from here, the Broncos got the best of the trade but I don't really get why they did it. The reward is worth the risk I suppose but Orton has never been bad in his career.  He has actually been impressive with his weapons that were available.  
Anyway, I would like to see once again a proud team in Cleveland, and it may be a few years out, but Holmgren knows how to build and lead a championship team. he has done it before.  He knows what to hire in terms of coaches and he has proven himself in years past to be one the elite decision makers in the league.

Since: Jul 14, 2009
Posted on: March 15, 2010 12:39 am

This trade works for me!

  Cleveland isn't winning the next couple of years.  Unless they trade up for a QB in this draft they are always going to be looking for the next greatest QB rather than developing one.  Cleveland has lots of draft picks but you can't win or even sustain competition in the AFC North without trusting your QB.  Fans of the Bengals, Steelers and Ravens will thank Mike Holgrem for this move. 

I'm all for it!

Since: Mar 15, 2010
Posted on: March 15, 2010 12:33 am

Quinn deal no surprise

What you fail to realize is that Holmgren was also responsible for Steve Young not only in SF but also at BYU, as well as being the QB coach and O Coordinator for Papa Joe. He has had a top 10 or better QB nearly his entire NFL coaching career, if that isn't a cultivator of exceptional talent I don't know what is.

Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: March 15, 2010 12:32 am

Quinn deal no surprise

I'm not sure about Quinn, but the Broncos needed depth at QB and they got it.  Hey, any deal that keeps the Broncos from drafting Tim Tebow is just fine with me!

Cleveland?  Surround Delhomme with some talent and you might be pleasantly surprised.  Not Brees-surprised, or Rivers-surprised, but better than you've had for a while.   

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