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Quinn deal no surprise

Posted on: March 14, 2010 6:05 pm
Edited on: March 14, 2010 6:51 pm

The Brady Quinn deal should have caught nobody by surprise, especially Brady Quinn. The minute Cleveland signed Jake Delhomme, Quinn was finished with the Browns.

So Cleveland deals him to Denver where the Broncos probably discover what Cleveland did -- that Quinn is not a very accurate quarterback. Nevertheless, coach Josh McDaniels prides himself on working with quarterbacks, and if he can find something here that Cleveland did not then maybe, just maybe, Quinn has a chance. It's a long shot, but it shows that Denver is eager to find a young arm to challenge Kyle Orton. Plus, it didn't cost the Broncos much.

McDaniels is close to former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis, and Weis loves Quinn. In all likelihood he sold his former pupil (the two were together at New England) on Quinn's smarts, telling him that he could be the perfect guy to run the Denver offense. If nothing else, he sold him on it being a risk worth taking because, given what you could find, the risk wasn't much.

All I know is that for Cleveland to give up on the guy speaks volumes. Because he was from Ohio, he was popular with Browns' fans who desperately wanted him to succeed. Then there's team president Mike Holmgren, who has a history of developing young quarterbacks -- which should've boded well for Quinn. Plus there was an opening, with Seneca Wallace the only challenger before Delhomme arrived on the scene.

I see where Wallace said he intends to be the starter, and that's great. Only if you've seen Seneca Wallace play quarterback he should never be the starter for anyone. No disrespect to Wallace, but as a quarterback he makes a better running back. Anyway, with all that on Quinn's side, he still couldn't make, and good luck in Denver. Maybe a change of scenery works in his favor ... but I doubt it.

Listen, Cleveland needs a good young quarterback, but the Browns bailed on Quinn after only three seasons. I know this regime didn't draft him, but Holmgren isn't going to jettison young talent. He discarded Quinn, and he did it relatively quickly -- for a 35-year-old who was cut by Carolina and who has 9 touchdown passes and 23 interceptions over his last 12 starts. That tells me all I need to know about Quinn's future.


Category: NFL

Since: Jun 5, 2009
Posted on: March 15, 2010 12:27 am

Quinn deal no surprise

Good article coc2009.  I couldnt agree with you more.  We are both on the same page with our Broncos.  The bottom line after this trade is Broncos added depth, and Browns didnt.  And for you Browns fans you better hope you draft a QB because if you dont its gonna be a longgggggggggg year.  You think your gonna get it done with old Delhomme and no line and weapons, you got rude awakenin comin.  And Senica is a joke.  3rd stringer at best.  The Browns shouldve kept Quinn, Anderson and picked up a good QB in draft.  What a bonehead move by Holmgren and now Mangini will get fired for it lol.. Thats messed up. 

Since: Mar 4, 2009
Posted on: March 14, 2010 11:51 pm

Quinn deal no surprise

It is so funny listening and reading to people talking about how great a QB genius coach Holmgren is.  He has had really one unbelievable player in Brett Favre.  Matt Hasselbeck is workable and plays pretty good, but he has gotten hurt quite a bit the last couple years.  So really, besides those two players, who has he turned into a great QB? 

McDaniels and the Broncos system is far superior to anything Cleveland can put on the field.  I feel much better getting rid of Simms and having Orton and Quinn, and having a 3rd stringer in Tom Brandstater.  I feel comfortable with all 3 leading the team if necessary.  Like it or not, McDaniels is picking up some great talent and is really turning this into his team. 

Any Broncos fans that keep whining about all the ex-Shannahan players that are checking out of here, well, I am sure Coach Shanahan will welcome you with open arms in Redskin Nation.  I wish Shanny nothing but well wishes, but this is Coach McDaniels team now and I am a Bronco fan!  Peyton Hillis, you are a stud FB/RB and thanks for your 2 years here in Colorado.  You are going to make Cleveland 100% better with your presence.  Good luck and I am glad you will get more playing time. 

GO BRONCOS, great trade today. 

Since: Oct 1, 2009
Posted on: March 14, 2010 11:20 pm

Quinn deal no surprise

I think it's awesome that you can dis on the Broncos for picking up Quinn and defend Mike Holmgren.  Is it just me or is Mike Holmgren banking the future (immediate at least) on Jake Delhomme?  Yes, Jake Delhomme.  You know the guy that has an INT to TD ratio of 23 to 9 over his last 12 starts?  That guy.  Maybe Holmgren isn't such a QB genius after all?

Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: March 14, 2010 10:48 pm

Quinn deal no surprise

I am thrilled to see Quinn go. He sucked. Cleveland's revenge on Denver. Good luck.

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: March 14, 2010 10:39 pm

Quinn deal no surprise

I've got to disagree with you on the McDaniels not doing anything comment. The system he put in place in New England was not the same that was run by Charlie Weiss. Weiss utilized a lot more of the tight ends and backs than McDaniels. Weiss also used a lot more reverses and draws than McDaniels. The biggest similarities between the two were the lineups used and the screens they like to run. The play calling was also very different. Weiss would call some of the weirdest plays, seriously, I've seen him run end arounds on third and short, I have no idea what he was thinking. McDaniels, on the other hand, was creative with his play calling but he was a little more sound in his decision making.

As far as his adjusting during the Giants superbowl, I'm not disagreeing with you on that at all, matter of fact I'd say you're dead on and that's his biggest downfall. Hopefully, for his sake, he learns from it. You've also got to remember though, Belichick is the head coach of that team and if he wanted something done he should have taken the time to get it done. I don't think many Pats fans would disagree if you said BB had his hands in pretty much everything that goes on with that organization, to include the offense.

For the record, I'm not saying McDaniels is a genius, I'm just saying he's very different from Weiss.

Yukon _Jack
Since: Mar 9, 2010
Posted on: March 14, 2010 10:05 pm
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Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: March 14, 2010 9:53 pm

Quinn deal no surprise

Welp, that's what everyone was saying last year too, eh?

Since: Dec 7, 2008
Posted on: March 14, 2010 9:20 pm

Quinn deal no surprise

Brady Quinn just got traded to real NFL team, they have pro wide receivers, running backs, and tight ends, plus a coach smarter than mangini 

Since: Nov 24, 2007
Posted on: March 14, 2010 9:05 pm

Quinn deal no surprise

Sometimes I think Holgrem's moves are genius...other moves are imbecilic! Guess we'll just have to wait until the season starts to see what these moves bring. Just seems like a lot of head scratching and nail biting until mid-season when things fall into place. I'm sure the cheers and boo-birds will tell the story!

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: March 14, 2010 8:59 pm

Quinn deal no surprise

So many people want to rip Holmgren for dumping Quinn when what you should look for is how much a 1st round qb makes in the 4 year no matter if he is starting or not. And the QBs he added may not be for how they play BUT rather what they can teach.

Holmgren did not like what he saw of Quinn and got something for him, period. He may be perfect for Denver's system but not for what is needed by the Browns. And if you get a young QB trained you should have a vet with solid work habits playing before him. Delhomme has slide in the past 2 years but a fresh start come get him some of was Kurt Warner found with a new home. And if not Wallace can keep thing moving if the team can get a running game.

So be sure Holmgren will get a Qb in this draft and most likely not in the 1st round. Snead, Pike or some other 3rd round QB can sit and watch for a year or 2 and have enough arm to make things work in the bad weather in Ohio. And don't be surprised if Mike drafts 2 QBs.

What is more stunning is how wacky is the support for McDaniels. A coach that can't get along with the DC that made the team have ANY HOPE of winning and runs him off is another step backwards for Denver. Orton did an OK  job but the number were nowhere close to what Denver did with the ball the year before. Anyone who says other than that must be related to McDaniels. The  D gave the Broncos any chance they had to win in 09. And when teams had enough film and adjusted Denver faded again.
And McDaniel DID NOT do that much in NE. Please get a grip. Matty C did wonders but the system was set up by Weis and his pupil held thing together. But it is because of his inability to adjust that the Pats lost to the Giants. Saw nothing in Denver that said they could put up points without Marshall. AND Marshall was not the ONLY player who has problems with Josh, just the most vocal.

So Denver has to move it's best player, must restart on D and play a second place schedule. Sounds like they are starting over again. And they don't look any better than the Browns.

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