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Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Posted on: September 1, 2010 6:51 pm
So now there's an ESPN report that Ben Roethlisberger will come to the NFL office Friday seeking a reduction of his six-game suspension to three. If true, it's a bold and courageous move by the Pittsburgh Steelers and their quarterback.

And one that is bound to fail.

Look, if there's one thing we've learned about commissioner Roger Goodell is that he means what he says. So when he says he supports an issue, it means he'll fight for it until he can make it happen -- with the new overtime rules Exhibit A and the New York Super Bowl Exhibit B. And when he says he will suspend a player for four to six games, he means he will suspend a player from four to six games -- period.

Not three. Not two. Four, five or six. Goodell is not exactly difficult to figure out. So if Roethlisberger wants to argue his case for three games, more power to him. He's just wasting his time.

"I can't see it happening," said a source close to the situation. "If (Goodell) meant to reduce the suspension to three games he would have said it. But he didn't."

Precisely. Goodell issued his suspension based on what the NFL uncovered in its investigations of complaints of Roethlisberger's off-the-field behavior. Roethlisberger is the first player suspended for violating the league's personal conduct policy who hasn't been arrested or charged with a crime, and that, apparently, is one factor motivating Roethlisberger and his representatives -- at least, according to the report.

But that's why this won't fly. That the league took such a tough stance tells you it found substance to the complaints and had to intervene to save Roethlisberger from himself. Hey, they even ordered an extensive "behavioral examination," whatever that means. To me, it means a guy has issues. Serious issues. And Goodell hinted at that when, referring to a complaint filed this offseason in Georgia, he said of Roethlisberger, "There is nothing about your conduct that can be remotely described as admirable, responsible or consistent with either the value of the league or the expectations of the fans."

Translation: Clean up your act, pal, or else.

That's why Goodell dropped the hammer. Just because Roethlisberger wasn't charged doesn't mean the guy skates. No sirree. He has to answer to a commissioner who is sick and tired of out-of-control players embarrassing themselves, their organizations and the league, and he's determined to clean it up. And he will make an example of Roethlisberger, with a very clear message that you don't have to be charged or convicted to get bounced.

Now, just because Roethlisberger has been a good boy for four months, Goodell is supposed to lighten up? I don't think so. He is nothing if not consistent. He suspended Pacman Jones for a season after repeated incidents, none of which resulted in convictions. But he'd had it with him. My guess is that he's had it with Roethlisberger, too, and is determined to make the quarterback ... and the Steelers ... understand he means business.

Cutting a suspension in half is not my idea of re-inforcing that message.

When Goodell said, "Your conduct raises sufficient concerns that I believe effective intervention now is the best step for your personal and professional welfare," he meant Roethlisberger needed to be leashed. So he leashed him for four to six games. Roethlisberger may have changed the last four months, but the incidents that got him in trouble are documented -- and Goodell acted based on what he found there. I can't believe he goes soft on him now. What I do believe is that you can take Roger Goodell at his word. When he says he will suspend Roethlisberger four to six games, he means it.

Last time I checked three was not between four and six. Someone pass the message to Roethlisberger.

Category: NFL

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: September 4, 2010 12:49 pm

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

If Big Ben was going to ask for his suspension to be lowere to 3 games, the Commissioner should have increased it to 7 or 8 games, just for him and Mr. Rooney being idiots.  I was born and raised in Pittsburgh and have been a fan of the Steelers for at least 50 years.  So, I am not a Steeler hater.  But am I the only one who thinks that the reason this girl and her family are so quiet, is that they are waiting to come out with a huge cicil lawsuit against Big Ben and the Steelers, and it is going to cost them millions of dollars

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2010 11:04 am

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

It amazes me how these swine come out in droves to defend their fellow 'Pig Pen Ben' for his obvious crimes.  Rape, bribery of a law enforcement officer, and conspiracy to outrage public decency are what this guy is obviously guilty of.  Just because he didn't get caught or charged with a crime doesn't mean he isn't guilty. The problem is that he has money and got to skate off clean.  The suspension is NOTHING compared to what he deserved and these idiot Steelers fans are clamoring for him to skate even over that!  If it were Tom Brady or Peyton Manning I'm certain they would be all over them just because it helps their team's chances.
Judge is right, but I even think he's lenient on this one.  If Goodell reduces his suspension then he has absolutely no business being commissioner.  He's already a hypocrite for letting other guys skate while he shoves mass suspensions down Wade Wilson's throat for basically nothing.  If you want to let the law and the 'just-us' system handle things, then fine...let it.  But you have to use that rule for everyone else and you have to accept the image that those players bring to the NFL.  
I'm sure Rooney is promising Goodell some 'favors' (as in bribe money) if he reduces the suspension for his only hope at QB, because lets be honest, Charlie Batch is not going to get the Steelers into the playoffs, and with a lockout looming, the teams with chances to be contenders want to go out with a bang so that they can stay relevant after a new CBA is reached and after a lockout year passes.

Since: Sep 7, 2009
Posted on: September 2, 2010 8:06 pm

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Bring your loaded gun to an airport and you will be in jail unlike Rogers hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Oct 18, 2007
Posted on: September 2, 2010 7:54 pm

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Goodell has way too much power.

Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: September 2, 2010 7:38 pm

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

REALLY? He is fed up and is determined to clean it up? So determined that he didn't suspend a guy that carried a LOADED gun into an AIRPORT? Please. Ben deserves to be suspended, but be consistent, Roger.

Since: Oct 17, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 4:27 pm

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

The biggest problem most Steeler fans have is the inconsistency of "justice" handed out, or better said, NOT handed out by Goodell.  Living in the Burgh i had to sit through hours upon hours of people slamming Ben for something that there was so little eveidence he did they didnt even want to bring it to trial.  The whole situation was F'd up that night in GA and Ben needed this because up until then he was known for the most part for being quite the douchebag.

There have been several much more severe, even law breaking, situations since then and Ben still stands as the only one suspended.  If Goodell isnt singling Ben out then i dont know how he can say he is treating all these situations very evenly

I think he should be given a chance to straighten out his life and become a better person.  I live in a country where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty, and also where a lot of people are forgiving and willing to give someone a chance to change.  This is a situation where fans who already didnt like Ben can jump all over, but i think most Steeler fans want him to change so he can be someone you want on your team.  

Im hoping it can be like Kobe Bryant (to me was worse because he was cheating and apparently forced himself on someone)  nobody mentions his issue anymore, they let it go and let he past be the past...his actually went to trial too.  They gave him a chance to change for the better.  I do know for around 95% of Steeler fans here this is the last straw.  It is for me as well, if he completes the hat trick of off season debacls with a 3rd, then ill be the first to get him on the bus outta Pgh...haha    &

Since: Oct 17, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 4:10 pm

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Ben cant tell his side of the story dumbas$ because he has that other thing in Nevada still going on...his lawyer told him not to comment on it until its 100% that both have gone away...

Since: Jul 14, 2009
Posted on: September 2, 2010 3:54 pm

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

there were trace amount of semen, just not enough to develop a complete genotype to compare to bens. 

Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 3:01 pm

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Pacman pled guilty on February 14, 2008 to a felony charge only after his suspension by the league was over so at the time that Goodell suspended him it was true that he had not been convicted of anything.

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 2:28 pm

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Wow.........  Can't believe you brought Hitler and the SS into this conversation. Thats what you replied with. I know you were using it as an example but I just find your reference incredibly immature and inappropriate to compare the NFL's investigative units conviction rate to Hitler and the Gestapo. I know you are probably heated regarding the Big Ben and his suspension and the consequences that that has on your football teams performance early in the season but wow talk about an immature and absolutely childish analogy. I find it especially hard to believe that someone with your choice words "ilk, grossly" and seemingly intelligent grammar and vocabulary would sink this low and use that as a reference. I have always found it that SOME steelers fans truly are blinded by love for there team and organization that they might be willing to look past or overlook certain missteps by their players. I am a Bronco's fan and still think that Goodell should have made Brandon Marshall sit out longer for his run in's with the law and consistent immature behavior. I mean how many times did the guy get in trouble for beating his girlfriend? As far as Big Ben goes I think that 4 games would be an appropriate suspension yes he had followed the rules and guidelines set by the Commish to have his suspension reduced however it came with absolutely no guarantee to be reduced and I think he should be somewhat thankful for the leagues help in both his personal and professional life. The league wants to HELP THE GUY. If this were his first run in with trouble, sure maybe a 1 game ban max, but two run in's for very very similar "situations". The guy does have a reputation also around Pittsburgh for partying excessively and being somewhat overly aggressive towards females. I do however completely agree with what some Steelers fans have said that the Commish has been a little inconsistent regarding the handling of other players incidents. Vince Young probably should have received a 1-2 game suspension and I don't know enough about cedric bensons case or incident to comment but the guy has had trouble before. I do wish though that athletes as well as public figures would take more responsibility for their actions and the message that they send to young fans and admirers. I think one of the greatest examples of this is by Donte Stallworth and this article is worth the read. Talk about being accountable and trying to atone for ones actions and realizing not only the platform that these athletes have but the responsibility they have to the fans and their organizations to be model citizens.


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