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Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Posted on: September 1, 2010 6:51 pm
 
So now there's an ESPN report that Ben Roethlisberger will come to the NFL office Friday seeking a reduction of his six-game suspension to three. If true, it's a bold and courageous move by the Pittsburgh Steelers and their quarterback.

And one that is bound to fail.

Look, if there's one thing we've learned about commissioner Roger Goodell is that he means what he says. So when he says he supports an issue, it means he'll fight for it until he can make it happen -- with the new overtime rules Exhibit A and the New York Super Bowl Exhibit B. And when he says he will suspend a player for four to six games, he means he will suspend a player from four to six games -- period.

Not three. Not two. Four, five or six. Goodell is not exactly difficult to figure out. So if Roethlisberger wants to argue his case for three games, more power to him. He's just wasting his time.

"I can't see it happening," said a source close to the situation. "If (Goodell) meant to reduce the suspension to three games he would have said it. But he didn't."

Precisely. Goodell issued his suspension based on what the NFL uncovered in its investigations of complaints of Roethlisberger's off-the-field behavior. Roethlisberger is the first player suspended for violating the league's personal conduct policy who hasn't been arrested or charged with a crime, and that, apparently, is one factor motivating Roethlisberger and his representatives -- at least, according to the report.

But that's why this won't fly. That the league took such a tough stance tells you it found substance to the complaints and had to intervene to save Roethlisberger from himself. Hey, they even ordered an extensive "behavioral examination," whatever that means. To me, it means a guy has issues. Serious issues. And Goodell hinted at that when, referring to a complaint filed this offseason in Georgia, he said of Roethlisberger, "There is nothing about your conduct that can be remotely described as admirable, responsible or consistent with either the value of the league or the expectations of the fans."

Translation: Clean up your act, pal, or else.

That's why Goodell dropped the hammer. Just because Roethlisberger wasn't charged doesn't mean the guy skates. No sirree. He has to answer to a commissioner who is sick and tired of out-of-control players embarrassing themselves, their organizations and the league, and he's determined to clean it up. And he will make an example of Roethlisberger, with a very clear message that you don't have to be charged or convicted to get bounced.

Now, just because Roethlisberger has been a good boy for four months, Goodell is supposed to lighten up? I don't think so. He is nothing if not consistent. He suspended Pacman Jones for a season after repeated incidents, none of which resulted in convictions. But he'd had it with him. My guess is that he's had it with Roethlisberger, too, and is determined to make the quarterback ... and the Steelers ... understand he means business.

Cutting a suspension in half is not my idea of re-inforcing that message.

When Goodell said, "Your conduct raises sufficient concerns that I believe effective intervention now is the best step for your personal and professional welfare," he meant Roethlisberger needed to be leashed. So he leashed him for four to six games. Roethlisberger may have changed the last four months, but the incidents that got him in trouble are documented -- and Goodell acted based on what he found there. I can't believe he goes soft on him now. What I do believe is that you can take Roger Goodell at his word. When he says he will suspend Roethlisberger four to six games, he means it.

Last time I checked three was not between four and six. Someone pass the message to Roethlisberger.

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Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 10:29 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

I think its gonna get reduced to three games maybe even two.The biggest factor in this whole deal is public perception in pittsburgh.the fans have embraced Ben and the commish has taken notice,if there was a witch hunt going on in pittsburgh i think the suspension stands.The fans know its time for football so they really want to see their team win so they are behind Ben and thats gonna be enough to sway Goodell.Keep an eye on the fans reaction to Ben when he steps on the field tonight against Carolina, i guarantee the commish will be watching to see how much these fans miss their quarterback thats why he scheduled the meeting for tomorrow.I say three the most and two if Mr Rooney gives a passionate speech on Ben's behalf.



Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 10:06 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

My issue is where was this article when Vince Young was not suspended, where was this article when Cedric Benson was not suspended.  There are two things going into affect here, the inconsistencies of Goodell's punishments and the witch hunt by the media.  They pick and choose who they want to crucify.  They do this by what they believe will generate the most hits on their website or purchases of their paper.  If they think a story will sell a lot, the hype it up and blast it for anyone to hear.  If they don't feel that way then it gets maybe a 1 minute once over on ESPN.  

This why Goodell suspended ben in the first place.  He made the NFL look bad because the media covered the incident non-stop.  Whats the difference between this accusation and the former, media attention -and the fact of possible criminal charges were actually involved in the latter accusation.  But there were criminal charges in other cases, yet not enough media attention - they didn't shed a bad light on the NFL. 

Then again, I do have a theory that Goodell wasn't going to suspend Ben if it wasn't for the Rooneys.  If that is the case expect the suspension to be reduced to 3 games.  If he doesn't reduce it then that theory is wrong.  Because its the Steelers Organization that are asking for this reduction not Ben.  Although its funny how people say, if he isn't guilty why doesn't he fight the suspension, then turn around and say - he fought the suspension he hasn't learned anything.  Well the answer in the former question is given in the response you're seeing now.  The steelers want to reduce this suspension because they saw how awful Dixon and Leftwich are.  Isn't it obvious, if Dixon had a good game then I doubt you hear any of this.  The Steelers don't want the ravens to walk into pittsburgh and beat them, I don't blame them.  Ben gives you the best chance to win and its so painfully obvious.



Since: Jun 3, 2008
Posted on: September 2, 2010 9:39 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

As a Steeler fan, I have no problem with Roethlisberger being suspended.  What I have a problem with is Goodell not suspending other players lately who have been chareged with things like being caught on tape punching people in strip clubs.  I mean, there's even a tape that shows clear wrong doing (unlike Roethlisberger where it was his word vs hers).  I am not saying he is innocent, I personally think he is a douche bag and deserves a suspension but it should be cut in half if Goodell's not going to suspend others who have been charged and plead guilty to charges or lesser charges in court.

Anyone with a brain can see the problem with Goodell's actions lately.  He is definitely not being consistent in all of this.  In my opinion, he needs to start cracking down on everything.  If these adults want to act like children, then start treating them like children and punishing them consistently.  

I think that is all anyone can ask for.   




Since: Sep 29, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 9:39 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

So we punish Big Ben for being what boils down to a Jerk and we let guys like Rogers who brings a loaded weapon to an airport (Federal Offense) skate with just a fine.

Others have also gotten into trouble after the Big Ben Fiasco such as the strip club incident involving Vince Young... but nothing happens to them.

Ben was not found guilty of a crime.. he was found guilty of being an A - hole and last time I checked a persons personality is not punishable.

The case being what it is....

Ben is the face of the Steelers...

The Steelers is the face of the NFL...

The NFL had to set an example... Big Ben is it....




Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 9:00 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Glad to see you go. 



Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 8:47 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Adgmod3 - yea you might as well get off this site.  Because I'm about to make you lose your mind.
I know you want the Steelers to cut Ben, why because he is like 11-1 against the browns at paul brown stadium.  I'd want him cut too.
I can't believe Rooney didn't boot this guy already.Don't you think Rooney would have if it was warranted?  If ben was charged with the crime, I believe he'd be wearing the browns colors right now.  You know good and well ya'll would pick him up.  
Instead he's saying, "we're the steelers, we're the pride of the NFL, I'm Art Rooney."You got that part right.
You're paying him a hundred million dollars to complete passes to defensive backs and sexually assault women, idiot!!!You know everyone talks about if this was my kid I'd be outraged.  Anyone realize that the parents aren't outraged?  Does that register with any of you?  Her friends that were there to help make up her story, are not outraged.  None of them are in the media petitioning anything.  They are quiet, why because they are embarrassed about what happened.  Don't tell me Ben paid them off, there would have been a report of a settlement.  Either way Ben hired lawyers, there were no reason why he would want to pay them off.  He wasn't even charged with anything yet.  If he paid them off to drop the charges then that would have been reported.  I'm sure someone would have caught wind of it, those journalist will do anything for a story, trust me.



Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 8:37 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

For those that think Goodell is taking this too far, you must remember that he is the comissioner of a League and isn't bound by the restrictions of a court system.DMCowboy, you sir are an idiot.  The NFL is bound by the restrictions of a court system.  What you meant to say is that Goodell doesn't have to use the court's decision as a based for his decision on suspensions.  But in the past he has.  This whole thing is so backwards it beyond common sense.  What you fail to realize if they found so much evidence against ben then why wasn't he charged?  How could they find all this evidence to warrant a suspension but not charge?  The way you make it sound like is that they found evidence that he committed a crime.  
He's a troll that preys on college kids (with the help of his "body guards") who are darn near 10 years younger than him.That depends on which version of her story you believe.  Its amazing how we pick and choose what we want to believe.  Ignorance is bliss.
Imagine if that were your daughter or sister he did that too....and all he gets is suspended from playing a game.If that was my daughter she would have some explaining to do.  Like why she was breaking the law by having a fake id, drinking underage, and wearing a DTF sticker.  If that was my daughter I didn't raise her that way and when you put yourself in bad situations bad things happened.   Noticed that the parents of this girl are not outraged?  Has anyone thought about that?  Either these are some crappy parents or they know their daughter has a propensity to be promiscuous and putting herself in these types of situations.  I just find its funny how everyone says, 'what if this was your daughter' this is someones daughter and someone sister and someone's friend.  None of them have come out publicly outraged.  I would if I felt something occured.  This further more proves that you guys here are grasping for straws and Ben will get his suspension reduced to 3 games for 'going above and beyond expectations'.  You know who said that, Mr. Goodell himself.



Since: Nov 7, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 8:31 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

He's a douche, but there isn't a law against that. That being said, he's got nothing to lose in asking for a 3 game reduction


Exactly, there isn't ANYTHING to lose.  My lord if the commish is willing to drop it to 4 games then asking it to be reduced to 3 is hardly an outrageous request.  It would be bold to ask for the suspension to be lifted all together but that's not the case.  This article is much ado about nothing aside from Judge sounding like he has a personal axe to grind.  It's been pretty well reported that Ben wasn't always the most forthcoming with the media and we all know how fragile their egos are.  Keep in mind these prima donnas are the same who COMPLAIN about getting PAID to go to the superbowl if they don't like where the superbowl is being held. 



Since: Aug 15, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 7:46 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

First, I'm not a Ben fan but I'm not a detractor either.  To suspend someone just because someone said he did this is crazy.  I think the suspension should be lifted period.  Why?  how many times do we hear about people setting someone with money up?  Who's to say it wasn't consenule and afterwards, talking to her friends, they say you know how much money you could make by saying Ben raped you?  We will be your witness and when he pays you a couple of million to settle out of court you give us this much and we will all be happy. 

you don't think the police took a rape kit sample?  how about an exam of the lady to see if the entry was forceable or not?  If it was an act of Rape then he should get life in Prison as far as I'm concerned, but something told the law enforcement team that investigated that wasn't the case. 

Then we hear that a convicted felon was in a night club, violation of parole right there, with individuals with a gun, another violation, but because the other guy was charged and not the felon, the commish say I'm not going to punish him.  Another player as stated earlier is convicted of DWI and no suspension,  Why?  you have guilty people and you do nothing and a guy who was declared innocent by Law Enforcement and he is suspended for 6 games. 

And I bet the commishiner would have let a convicted felon play this year if he was let out on work release.  Thank you New York for turning Burress down and keeping this commishiner from making another A$$ of himself.



Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 7:17 am
 

Big Ben expected to strike ... out

Bottom line, Big Ben is an A$$ of the first order.  Nothing will change that, he is who he is (look at Lawrence Taylor as a good example).  Goodell is well within his rights to suspend Ben and if he came to me asking for 3 games, I'd bump it up to 5.  Ben is in no position to be asking for squat.  He's a troll that preys on college kids (with the help of his "body guards") who are darn near 10 years younger than him.  Imagine if that were your daughter or sister he did that too....and all he gets is suspended from playing a game.  Pardon me if I don't shed a tear for Benny the kid.

You're right.  I've imagined it.  If it was my daughter, I'd be ticked.  I'd probably be in jail . . . if he raped her.  If she led him on and consented, my first conversation is with her.  I'm going to be honest with you; I am really growing tired of this emotional, "make it personal" argument.  NOT because I don't care.  My daughter wouldn't be there.  So while you're on your self-righteous diatribe, ask yourself about a young woman who is bar-hopping at 2:00 in the morning before you ask me to compare my daughter with her.  There is a huge difference.

Now imagine this:  Your son walks into an airport, where guns are illegal anyway, and is confronted by someone wielding a loaded handgun.  How are you feeling about your son's safety?  Or how about your son going to a bar for a casual drink when a brawl breaks out because of one of the bar's "well established" patrons?  How are you feeling about your son's safety?

 

 



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