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No surprise in Favre fining

Posted on: December 29, 2010 1:47 pm
Edited on: December 29, 2010 7:42 pm
 
So Brett Favre was fined. You were expecting something more?

Please. If anything, Favre was guilty of acting like a lovestruck teenager who knew what he wanted but didn't know how to get it. If the complainant were annoyed or upset with his telephoning or texting or whatever he did of was alleged to have done, she could have gone to the Jets or told Favre to stop or gotten the police involved ... but apparently she didn't.

And the photos? I don't know that that was Favre, and the NFL doesn't, either. It can't prove it was him or that he took them or that he sent them. This is not about what the NFL suspects; this is about what it knows. And it knows enough to understand there's not much evidence here of anything other than an uncooperative Favre.

I'm no legal expert, but I suspect that if this were a court of law the so-called evidence in question would have been tossed in a New York minute.

That, of course, is not to excuse Favre. His alleged behavior should not be tolerated ... especially by Mrs. Favre, and, just a guess, but that's where his biggest problem is. Once, she was a regular on Sunday afternoon games, photographed in a luxury suite cheering for her husband. i can't tell you the last time I saw her photographed at any game.

The commissioner indicated that Favre was less than cooperative and was fined for his "failure to cooperate with the investigation in a forthcoming manner." Good. He's a league employee, and he should have been penalized. But he should not have been suspended. There was no evidence of a workplace violation, the NFL said. So it NFL did the right thing. Let's move on.
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Since: Oct 2, 2009
Posted on: December 31, 2010 3:30 am
 

No surprise in Favre fining

You are wrong about her feeling sexually harrassed.  If she was, her lawyer today wouldn't hesitate to bring one on.  She has stated to Deadspin and her friends have stated that they thought it was funny.  She said she kept the photos on her computer and every once in awhile they would look at it and laugh about it.  She also stated to Deadspin others had sent her pics of themselves as well.  She clearly was not bothered by it and there is no way Favre could have gotten her fired, for what?  He was not her boss or had anything to with her job status.  If she felt harrassed, she would have complained, quit her job, lost sleep. None of it caused any problems to her at that point. She didn't complain to the NFL or anyone.  If she would have made a complaint back then she might have had a case.  She didn't and that's why she can't bring him to court today.  She can't prove he caused her any job loss or anxiety.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2010 1:31 pm
 

No surprise in Favre fining

big surprise in fine.....what kind of justice is this? since when is it reasonable to expect the defendant to assist in their own prosecution?...and fine them for not doing so?....someone has an accusation against someone else, make them prove it.

Actually, his contract and the CBA require him to cooperate with the NFL's investigation.  He did not cooperate, thus the fine.

Also, as a matter of fact, had Sterger sued, in civil court a party can exercise his 5th Amendment right and refuse to testify on the grounds that "it might incriminate me".  However, unlike in criminal cases where the refusal to testify cannot be used against you, if you do take the 5th Amendment the court can, but is not required to, make the inference that had you answered the question the answer would have been detrimental to your case...in other words if Sterger filed a civil suit and Sterger's attorney asked Favre "did you send her a picture of your penis?" and Favre refuses to answer the Judge/Jury can assume the answer would have been "yes".




Since: Jun 21, 2009
Posted on: December 30, 2010 11:57 am
 

No surprise in Favre fining

MP2375, First, She had to give Farve her number in order for him to call her or for her to recieve squat from him. That means she was gold digging from the start. Oh and  what "other evidence" was there? There was nothing, the records showed a few phone calls and that was it, heck there was no proof that the pictures were of him or even that the pictures were even sent by him. The mere fact that she saved the picture means she was not offended by it untill some 2 years later.  This Ho knew her time in the sun was done and was and is looking for a different pay day.  

JLT, this one is almost as bad as Clark Judge's initial column. Sterger's job with the NY Jets has been described as both "Gameday Hostess" and "Sideline Reporter". Regardless of the specific title, it's clear that she was hired to be the face of the Jets to a segment of their audience and interacting with players would be a job requirement. Whether it was through an internal directory or (as Deadspin reported at one point) a Favre contact in the Jets PR department, there's no reason to think that she gave him the number for romantic reasons. 

You also indicate that because she saved the pictures means she must not have been offended. How about the opposite possibility? How about the idea that she wanted to make sure he stayed away? I mean, she's in her early 20's and this guy old enough to be her father starts hitting on her. A creepy situation, to say the least. And the guy is not only a creep but the franchise quarterback heralded by his legions of fans in the media for being a "regular guy". You can picture the ads now. Good ole' Brett, just another country boy made good. The kind of guy you'd love to have a beer with and the kind of guy you'd trust your kids around. 

If you're Sterger, an attractive young woman attempting to make a career in the testosterone-drenched field of professional sports, you know what's going to happen if you complain- especially without evidence. Read some of the previous posts to see what I'm talking about... people thinking she was asking for it and that she made it up to make herself a "media personality" or other such nonsense. So what do you do with those pictures? You hang on to them. You let Brett know that he'd better mind his manners. Is it blackmail? If she'd asked for money or a job, absolutely. But to be left alone? That's justice.



Since: Jun 21, 2009
Posted on: December 30, 2010 11:38 am
 

No surprise in Favre fining

Wow... remind me again what it takes to become a columnist/blogger for CBS. This post shows a shocking lack of understanding not only of the issues but of the legalities involved in this situation. Perhaps Mr. Judge, you are unaware of the sexual harassment in the workplace laws that have been passed over the last 20 years. As you say, you're "no legal expert". So I'll summarize them for you. Conduct of a sexual nature by one worker or employer that makes another employee of that company uncomfortable can legally be considered sexual harassment. This is especially true when the harasser is in a superior position to the harassee, creating a hostile work environment.

I think that it's fair to say that Favre had a superior position with the New York Jets. He was the star quarterback earning $10M. Sterger was the media representative making... significantly less. If there was a confrontation between the two, clearly Sterger would be on the unemployment line. So he clearly held a degree of power and authority over her. They were both employees of the New York Jets and shared a work environment. And I have a hard time imagining anything more hostile than getting pictures of some guy's dong along with voice mails and text messages pathetically trying to seduce. 

If you're Sterger, what the hell do you do? If you report it, you're the golddigger who's just looking for a paycheck. AND you'll probably be out of a job as soon as the organization can find a way to legally fire you without violating whistle-blower laws. Half the country will think you were asking for it simply because you had the audacity to be born physically attractive. The best thing that can happen for you is what DID happen; the dirty old man moves on to another team and finds another girl to hit on Daddy-Daughter style.

Finally, there is a very simple way to determine if those pictures are indeed Brett Favre. It's the same one Bill Clinton had to submit to during the Paula Jones lawsuit. Drop the drawers and match up the equipment. Clearly GODdell didn't want to take it that far- but you can be assured that if this does wind up in court I won't be the only one to come to this solution. And Favre, who's never denied chasing after her like a dog in heat, will have two choices; pay up or drop trou. Good luck with that set of choices, Brett



Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2010 9:34 am
 

No surprise in Favre fining

Mr Commish came into being wanting to upgrade the perception of the NFL players to the fans, get the spoiled brat title off the books and fine people for there misgivings, upgrade the behavior level of the players, control the conduct of the players on the field.  Well here he ahd the BEST opportunity to do that and fell flat on his face.  Here is a "star" that did something that he shouldn't have, whatever it was, it was unappropriate and he deserved punishment, hell ESPN played teh tape where he left a message for the girl that as a married man he shouldn't have.  But they dragged there feet, let things go, and then the Streak was gone, he got hurt, will probabaly never play again, is going to retire, and all of a sudden the NFL fines him $50,000.  OH THAT WILL HURT!  Sorry Commish - you had your BIG chance, AND YOU BLEW IT, YOU BLEW IT BIG TIME!



Since: Dec 6, 2010
Posted on: December 30, 2010 8:40 am
 

No surprise in Favre fining

goodell is a joke..one article said that''goodell was poring over the evidence provided''...what does that mean?...he was sitting at the dinner table staring at the picture eating a minature hotdog?



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: December 30, 2010 8:34 am
 

No surprise in Favre fining

Hey PAThfinder, you're as gullable as Farve is if you think this is a case of harrassment. This girl has made a career out of her good looks

I didn't say that. What I did do, was comment on the post that said something to the efffect of - How can you expect some good looking woman to not get harrassed in an environment like that.

Whether the issue with Sterger is harrassment or not depends on a lot of things - whether or not Favre really sent the picutres, whether or not she did anything to invite those pictures, there's a lot of details about this that I neither know, nor care about.

What I do care about is the mentality that says you can "expect" a good looking woman to get harrassed because she's in a testosterone filled environment. Nobody should EXPECT to get harrassed in any workplace, ever.



Since: Jun 4, 2009
Posted on: December 30, 2010 7:54 am
 

No surprise in Favre fining

Hey PAThfinder, you're as gullable as Farve is if you think this is a case of harrassment. This girl has made a career out of her good looks. The way I see it, Favre is an idiot that doesn't want to admit he has aged twenty years and this girl is feeding her own ego and having fun at his expense. She is far from the Damsell in Distress being harassed by the big, bad quarterback. She was in control of the situation.  I'm sure her and her friends looked forward to getting new texts and photos from Favre to crack up about. I would not at all be surprised if she asked him to send that photo to have a laugh.




Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: December 30, 2010 3:09 am
 

No surprise in Favre fining

Del Norte - If we're going to talk about "laws" and "evidence", we should at least be honest about why these people are in a position to be "harassed" and "intimidated" in the first place. You send hot women into a mass of uneducated, macho-driven men and you expect them NOT to be harassed?

Why should we expect them to be harrassed? Because they're surrounded by athletes who can do whatever they want? It doesn't matter what your paycheck says, or what your occupation is, or what your drive is. You work in the United States of America, and there are laws here. Those laws are meant to protect the dignity and integrity of the people in the workplace, whether they're hot or not.

Now, I'm not saying Favre actually did what he's accused of doing, my point here is that you should never EXPECT someone to be harrassed because they're "hot". Is it okay for some of the dudes on FoxNews to harrass their female counterparts because they look good?

Of course these women look good. Nobody wants to see a pock-marked 5'2" 240 pound war pig covering their sports. If she looks good, though, by all means, let her on. Sex sells and we all know it. It still doesn't make harrassment okay.



Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: December 30, 2010 2:08 am
 

No surprise in Favre fining

Article states:  But he should not have been suspended. There was no evidence of a workplace violation, the NFL said.


This same argument doesn't work too well for the Ben Roethlisberger situation.  He never committed a workplace violation.  In fact he apparently never committed a crime either.  Someone said he did when he didn't. 

I'm not suggesting that Favre should or shouldn't have deserved a fine.  I could care less about his private life.

Just looking for a little consistency from the NFL offices.  Things have really gotten out-of-hand with Mr. Goodell this year.  Time for a change.


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