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Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

Posted on: February 27, 2011 9:44 am
Edited on: February 27, 2011 9:53 am
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After interviewing GMs and coaches at this week's NFL scouting combine, I'd be surprised if the Philadelphia Eagles don't wind up trading quarterback Kevin Kolb. There just seems to be too much interest in the guy -- and too many teams willing to bid on him -- for the Eagles not to consider a move.

The Eagles haven't said that Kolb is for sale, but they haven't said he isn't, either.  Coach Andy Reid is a staunch supporter of Kolb and wants to keep him -- as he should. Kolb is young, he is proven and he is under contract for another season. Plus, he backs up Michael Vick, whose wide-open style of play makes him a virtual certainty to be hurt next season ... or any season.

But the Eagles may be offered a deal they can't refuse. They're in a position not unlike the one they had last year with Donovan McNabb ... except that Kolb has a future. McNabb had a year left on his contract, too, and the Eagles had to decide to keep him one season or get what they could for him when they could.

The situation is similar, except Philadelphia isn't shopping Kolb. According to people at this week's combine, clubs are calling the Eagles and are eager to make a deal. And you can see why. This year's draft class isn't strong at quarterback, with no clear No. 1. Plus, it falls off sharply after Blaine Gabbert and Cam Newton, and there's no certainty that either of those guys can make it. So that makes Kolb that much more attractive. He has started, he has won and he's 26.

The question, of course, is what it will take to get him. The Eagles years ago shipped backup A.J. Feeley to Miami for a second-round draft pick, but Kolb isn't A.J. Feeley. He's much better and more desirable. They traded McNabb last spring for second and fifth-round draft choices, but Kolb's best years are ahead of him where McNabb's were not.

So now the question: What will Kolb command?

"I guarantee you it will be high," said one coach. "The Eagles always shoot high."

That means a first-rounder and something else, probably another high draft pick, and while that exceeds what Houston quarterback Matt Schaub commanded when the Falcons traded him -- for a flip of first-rounders and two No. 2s -- apparently it hasn't dismayed suitors. Several clubs said they heard there's a bidding war on for Kolb, with clubs desperate to fill the most important position. You can figure that Arizona, San Francisco and Minnesota probably are involved, with all desperate to fill quarterback openings, but they're not saying, and either are the Eagles.

All I know is how Philadelphia operates, which is to set the bar high and deal only if they get what they want. A year ago the club went to the NFL scouting combine with Michael Vick available for the right price, which was a second-round pick. But it didn't budge because there was little or no interest. Vick hadn't played in two years and barely played in a third, with teams concerned he might never be the quarterback he was with Atlanta. So they backed off, and the Eagles kept him.

But league sources seem to believe Philadelphia can and will get what it demands for Kolb, partly because he is proven, partly because he has a future and mostly because he's better than what's available in the draft.

Of course, if and when there's a lockout next week, there can be no trades. Deals would be put on hold until a settlement is reached, and there's no indication a settlement is near. That could complicate or sabotage a trade if a work stoppage goes beyond the April 28-30 draft, with teams no longer able to offer picks in return.

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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 28, 2011 12:08 am
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

Fisrt of all he ddid miss several games due to injury and was pretty banged up at the end of the season. Not sure how thats pretending. Sure most Qb's are banged up at the end of the season but most if not all are not running Qb's. And yes he is a running qb no matter how you try and get around it. Second wasnt he in a federal prison? Not sure that is exactly "hard" time.

He played 12 games, missing 3 complete games before week 17.   Week 17 meant nothing so they benched him as many players are benched that week.  If they needed the win, he would have played.  End of story.  He missed a whopping 3 games.

As for your comment on federal prison, my bad.... you're so right.   I guess you've seen a ton of qb's spend 2 years in federal prison and then come back to the NFL, throw for over 3 thousand yards in 12 games, run for 676, 21 td's in the air, 6 int's and a 100 rating.  Yeah, everybody does that....  furthermore,  I highly doubt 2 years in federal prison is a cake walk or a ton of fun.

99.9 percent of NFL qb's would never have seen the field again let alone put numbers like that up....  and yeah, he's a running qb that averages 250 yards in the air every game.... something else I'm sure you've seen 100 times right?

That being said, football is a team game.  The Eagles had a terrible oline and bottom 5 D in the redzone....  if that doesn't change, they can't go to the big game... if they fix those things, Vick will get them there..... it's that simple.



Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: February 27, 2011 11:55 pm
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

Nice post 4321.  It got me thinking.



Since: Feb 8, 2009
Posted on: February 27, 2011 11:33 pm
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

First, Rodgers is priceless and clearly teams would sell the farm to get him.  Four #1's would be attainable.  What Packers fans should look at is the value of their backup.  If qb Matt Flynn is under contract, he could be easily traded for a high pick.  Perhaps a #2 or a pick at the end of the first.  It is a seller's market.



Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: February 27, 2011 11:22 pm
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

With all this talk of QB shortages I just thought I'd have a little fun here.  If the Packers were willing to trade Aaron Rodgers (which they never would) how many first round picks would it take to get him?  I'd guess 4.



Since: Feb 8, 2009
Posted on: February 27, 2011 11:14 pm
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

I agree that Kolb's body of work is not that extensive.  In his perhaps 8 games work, he has won 2 offensive player of the week awards.  That is not too shabby.  If AJ Feeley can get you the 34th pick in the draft with his feeble performances, what would you expect to get for Kolb.  On a side note, Larry Fitzgerald made a list of quarterbacks that Arizona should go after.  Kolb was on the short list.  I would not say Kolb has shown nothing.



Since: Nov 6, 2009
Posted on: February 27, 2011 11:13 pm
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

This is the NFL man.  Qb's play with injuries and after 13 or 14 games most play hurt.... Michael Vick is not even close to the reason the Eagles lost in the playoffs... a bad oline and a mediocre D in crunch time and in the redzone is why they lost....
It seems you were responding to me on this one, so I will reply:
I never said that A. this wasn't the NFL, or that noone else is banged up,
B. that Vick was the reason the Eagles lost

First dozens of people on these boards pretend he's been injury prone and when I prove everybody wrong the answer I get is he gets banged up?
The truth is, a QB that relies so much on his athleticism will have his performance suffer exponentially more than a traditional pocket QB.  Drew Brees - sprained MCL, still quite effective, Ben Roethlisberger, not quite a pocket passer, but played effectively with a broken foot.  Mike Vick - bruised quad, stops looking downfield, instead is watching the rush.  Tell me you didn't notice that. 



Since: Dec 1, 2006
Posted on: February 27, 2011 11:01 pm
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

you are an idiot .... which explains why you are a vikings fan.  vick hasn't won the big one, so he sucks?  i suppose that means trent dilfer is a stud because he has won the big one and dan marino sucks too because he never did win a super bowl.  idiots like you fail to realize that football is a team game.  any logical football fan can see that vick is explosive and he's improved, while if you've seen kolb play, you know that he's shown nothing at all yet.  i hope we trade kolb to the vikings so your team can suck another six years.



Since: Jan 24, 2007
Posted on: February 27, 2011 10:40 pm
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

"Might just be the most incredible thing any athlete has ever accomplished"  might just be the most incredibly ridiculous statement i have ever heard. If you narrow your parameters to say November 2010 until december 2010 then i'll give it a maybe. examples of some that may have had a tougher road see Jim Braddock, Jim Thorpe,Lance Armstrong,Roger Maris,Jackie Robinson,Hank Aaron, I could fill this page and more before Vicks name would even come up fact is he had a good year not great just good and he accomplished nothing.



Since: Apr 27, 2009
Posted on: February 27, 2011 10:29 pm
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

First dozens of people on these boards pretend he's been injury prone and when I prove everybody wrong the answer I get is he gets banged up?
Fisrt of all he ddid miss several games due to injury and was pretty banged up at the end of the season. Not sure how thats pretending. Sure most Qb's are banged up at the end of the season but most if not all are not running Qb's. And yes he is a running qb no matter how you try and get around it.
Second wasnt he in a federal prison? Not sure that is exactly "hard" time.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 27, 2011 9:58 pm
 

Kolb's stock so hot Eagles may be forced to deal

If you were watching, you saw him limping around for the final couple of games he played - in which he played with less efficiency before being rested so his body could heal / not risk further injury.

This is the NFL man.  Qb's play with injuries and after 13 or 14 games most play hurt.... Michael Vick is not even close to the reason the Eagles lost in the playoffs... a bad oline and a mediocre D in crunch time and in the redzone is why they lost....

First dozens of people on these boards pretend he's been injury prone and when I prove everybody wrong the answer I get is he gets banged up?

C'mon... give it a break.  Vick is a superstar qb in this league.  The fact he can play this well after 2 years doing hard time in prison might just be the most incredible thing any athlete has ever accomplished.


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