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Talk is cheap ... and not always positive

Posted on: June 17, 2011 10:34 am
Edited on: June 17, 2011 11:30 am
So now we have a report that NFL owners aren't so happy with the ongoing negotiations between players and management, and while I haven't heard a league owner second that I do think there's something to it, and here's why: Because people are talking.

No, let me put that more succinctly: Because Jeff Pash, lead counsel for the NFL, is talking. He told Sirius Radio this week that owners had proposed a 90 percent cash cap, and that's the first we've heard from Pash since the league meetings in late May. So what? So it's never a good sign when people are talking.

Look what happened when the two sides initiated impromptu talks prior to the June 3 hearing in St. Louis. Nobody knew about it. Which meant nobody was talking. And look what happened since: Nobody spoke about what went on inside those meetings ... until now, that is.

When Pash stepped forward this week to divulge contents of an offer that the players "pushed" for, I immediately wondered: What's wrong with this picture? Pash is smart, low-key and careful, measuring what he says publicly to avoid compromising talks. At the league meetings, for instance, he wouldn't divulge whether the league's March 11 offer would be back on the table, and, OK, I understand that. But now he's willing to dissect a closed-door offer that looks almost too good to be true? That told me someone isn't buying it. Otherwise, why would Pash address it in a public forum?

It also told me we just hit another bump in the road.

Now, let's get something straight: This doesn't mean there won't be a settlement, and it doesn't mean there won't be a settlement in the forseeable future. I still believe something is resolved in early to mid July, with July 5-15 a reasonable date. But I remember what someone told me at the league meetings in May, and it's something to consider: If you're willing to go to a lockout, you better be willing to take a year off.

That is not a threat. It's just a warning that owners may be a more difficult sell than once believed. Remember, this is not a one-year agreement they're trying to negotiate. This is one they hope carries them and the players through the next 8-10 years -- which means they're determined to get it right.

They didn't in 2006, which is why the NFL went to a lockout and why it hasn't been lifted. Reports indicate that next week's owners' meetings in Chicago will address the issues that are causing problems among owners, and I suggest if that's true they'll need more than a night to resolve things. They may need weeks.

The small-market vs. big-market debate in revenue sharing won't go away, and until that is resolved there's no use talking about a new CBA.

Category: NFL

Since: Sep 9, 2006
Posted on: June 17, 2011 11:46 pm

Talk is cheap ... and not always positive

there is no chance football will not be played in 2011, why becuase if you lose a year, you lose a year a reevnuer, the players don't want that, the owners don't want , especially irsay who would have to wait 3 years before they get a super bowl, if a season is lost and also again kickoff weekend sept 8th-12th nad again nbc,cbs,fox,espn probably all have there pre-game geared toward a certain anniversarry

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: June 17, 2011 8:06 pm

Talk is cheap ... and not always positive

Anti-trust exemptions will be a thing of the past for the NFL if they don't get a CBA soon...there's a lot of lawyers itching to crack that egg open if the idiots can't figure something out that works...

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2011 5:03 pm

Talk is cheap ... and not always positive

Judge says the owners hold the key to an agreement?  Thanks for the info.... of course they do.  They always did hold the key... the players never did have any leverage and never will....... the courts could lift the lockout and the players will still lose an appeal just like they lost the last appeal.... either the players kiss butt or their season is over.

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: June 17, 2011 3:52 pm

Talk is cheap ... and not always positive

And yet many will continue to blame the players for letting the owners lock them out. Go figure.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: June 17, 2011 11:18 am

Talk is cheap ... and not always positive

I agree with Judge for once. We keep hearing how "close" the two sides are, but where is the proof? Where are the results? Where is the new collective bargaining agreement? I think there's a better than 50/50 chance that no football is played in 2011. The owners know - or think they know - that football is strong enough to survive a year off and most players will be ready to cry uncle if the money dries up for a year. And if the owners somehow regain the TV contract money that Doty took away, forget about it. See you in 2012.

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