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No news bad news for Umenyiora

Posted on: July 26, 2011 4:29 pm
Edited on: July 26, 2011 5:19 pm
 
I don't know if defensive end Osi Umenyiora reports to the Giants when they open training camp Friday, and I don't know that Umenyiora knows. Sources close to him say he's unsure what the next move is. They also say he's steamed.

That's because Umenyiora hasn't heard from GM Jerry Reese, and that's an issue because in a sworn affadavit that was part of the Tom Brady anti-trust lawsuit vs. the NFL, Umenyiora said Reese promised in 2008 that if Umenyiora were playing as a top defensive end in two years he would either gain a new deal or be traded to a team where he would paid like a top-five player at his position.

Well, this just in: Umenyiora is playing like one of the game's top defensive ends. In fact, his 10 forced fumbles last season set an NFL record. That's why he'd like to hear from Reese, but so far there's been no meeting, no phone calls, no nothing -- and Umenyiora isn't happy.

Team president and co-owner John Mara told reporters he's "hopeful" that Umenyiora will show up for work Friday, but I wouldn't be so sure. People who know him say he's so ticked that there's talk of staying away and trying to force the Giants to do something, anything to ameliorate what could become a major distraction and disruption.

Of course, staying away would cost Umenyiora $30,000 for each day he misses, so the penalty is costly. Plus, the Giants don't have to do anything. He's under contract for another two seasons, which means he's not going anywhere ... unless, of course, the club trades him. At this stage, all we know is that all bets are off, and that includes the possibility of Umenyiora having played his last down for the Giants.

This one has the potential to be a powder keg, and it is worth following.







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Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: July 27, 2011 9:08 am
 

No news bad news for Umenyiora

All the players you mentioned are veterans who have underperformed their contracts for multiple seasons and are clearly not as valuable to the team as they once were. And really, with all these players, age has more to do with them getting cut than their performance does. 

Well, I would disagree that "all" the players have underperformed  for multiple seasons. Perhaps true for Barnett, certainly true for Heap. Davis was an All Pro for 3 of the last 4 years, so last year was a single year trend (so far). Perhaps Dallas is getting ahead of the game  anticipating further deterioration, but so far, it's just one year (on a team that underperformed overall), not multiple. Marion Barber is 27, not that old at all,even in RB years, and last year was also a single bad year - the prior year he had a 4.4 average, for instance.

Regardless, the point is that for whatever the reason, teams DO get rid of players who underperform, despite the existence of a contract, which is the only point I was trying to make.




Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: July 27, 2011 8:58 am
 

No news bad news for Umenyiora

lee3022 -
I do not disagree that Osi may have a legit issue. I only intended to point out that owners ignore/abrogtae players' contracts all the time. In fact, it is the rule, not the exception.

I do disagree with one point you make - that Osi has "the protection of a long-term contract" - that is not true, because there is no such thing as the protection (that is, commitment) of a contract in the NFl, from a player's point of view. The team can cut the player at any time, and owe him nothing more, since there are no guaranteed contracts, unlike baseball, basketball, etc.. A 5 year NFL contract is really 6 separate items: the signing bonus, which is guaranteed (unless you screw up big time and the team sues to get it back), plus 5 one-year nonguaranteed contracts that bind the player, but not the team. The reason that players holdout is not really to get a higher salary - it's to get another bonus, their only truly guaranteed cash...




Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: July 27, 2011 8:50 am
 

No news bad news for Umenyiora

It does sound like Reece here has promised something he 1) cannot deliver; or 2) never intended to deliver on. Osi has been such a warrior for the Giants that I cannot imagine him being treated like this. On the other hand, Osi, you have had the protection of a long-term contract and buyer's remorse is for the school kids, not professionals.

How did reese make a promise he couldn't/wouldn't keep?  Osi was hurt in 2008, sucked in 2009 and played good last year.  That deserves a new deal?  With the shortened off-season and all teams are trying to do this week, Osi has to play his crying out in the media?  This guy complains all the time.  Every year it's something with this guy.

He should have man'd up and call Reese himself, in person.  It's funny, he wants to call out LeSean McCoy for being a "twitter gangster" but he chooses to use the media to cry about his contract?  He's a punk.  I hope the G Men trade his a$$.



Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: July 27, 2011 2:17 am
 

Do who is going to pick up Reese's pieces?

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Nick Barnett and Todd Heap, I don't know about, but it seems pretty solid that Dallas has changed its offense so that Davis and Barber will not be back at any price.


It does sound like Reece here has promised something he 1) cannot deliver; or 2) never intended to deliver on. Osi has been such a warrior for the Giants that I cannot imagine him being treated like this. On the other hand, Osi, you have had the protection of a long-term contract and buyer's remorse is for the school kids, not professionals.

Mara and other owners are fresh off a brutal CBA war and he may not be inclined to budge (see Carson Palmer) from a signed contract. It seems around the league that owners have determined to change the pattern of bad behavior by players who have out-performed their contracts.



Since: Mar 6, 2009
Posted on: July 27, 2011 1:20 am
 

No news bad news for Umenyiora

dude how do you know what play was called not on every play the d end has containment have you ever played football?? He is a top 10 de but Justin Tuck makes his life very easy and so did strahand. When you are double teaming on the other side that leave osi one on one Bu t you rip him for containment unless you are the coach that called the play.



Since: Apr 21, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2011 9:27 pm
 

No news bad news for Umenyiora

Jared Allen, Julius Peppers, Justin Tuck, John Abaham, Justin Mathis are just a few that are better. I am a Giants fan and Osi disappoints me too often. The NY pass rush can be too inconsistent. Yes, 10 forced fumbles is nice. Because of Osi's athletisim he can make plays. But after several years I don't think he understands what containment means. He takes ridicoulously wide angles sometimes and TAKES HIMSELF OUT OF THE PLAY. That is not top-5, let alone PRO-BOWL caliber play. You can not gamble and take wide angles and take yourself out of play. THAT IS NOT FOOTBALL. THAT IS SOFT. It's like trying to run out of bounds to get to the QB??? For every one of those fumbles I can show you a play where OSI was out of position or JUST PLAIN looked lost on the field.

 The quote I believe was for OSI to be a top 5 DE over the next two years. No in two years. Check the quote again. Well, over the next two years... He only played one of those. And he was not a pro-bowl selection in that one . How does that equated to top 5 DE?

Check your info before you just look at one stat - THE forced fumbles - to automatically assume he is a top 5 DE. If you are a top 5 DE.. a person should be able to list 10 great stats about you. ONE OF WHICH IS A DEFENSE THAT DOES NOT GIVE UP 400+ YARDS PER GAME BECAUSE OF PEOPLE OUT OF POSITION.
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Since: Jul 16, 2008
Posted on: July 26, 2011 7:03 pm
 

No news bad news for Umenyiora

It isn't right to compare this offseason to others. It is totally different. 

Yes, VETERAN players who have reached the back-loaded portions of their contracts are expected to resign for less money or get cut. However, the vast majority of players under contract aren't asked to renegotiate after one or even two bad seasons.

All the players you mentioned are veterans who have underperformed their contracts for multiple seasons and are clearly not as valuable to the team as they once were. And really, with all these players, age has more to do with them getting cut than their performance does. 



Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2011 6:03 pm
 

No news bad news for Umenyiora

This holding out business is a joke.  If you underperform, does ownership ask for less of a contract before they let you come to camp?
In the NFL? Yes. Happens every single season. It's happeningright now. See Leonard Davis, Nick Barnett, Todd Heap, Marion Barber, etc., all of whom are going to be cut and many of whom will be given teh option to come back at less money, despite having a "contract". (It's not really a contract, since one party, the team, is not bound by it. They can opt out at the beginning of any season).



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2011 5:18 pm
 

No news bad news for Umenyiora

This holding out business is a joke.  If you underperform, does ownership ask for less of a contract before they let you come to camp?



Since: Aug 23, 2010
Posted on: July 26, 2011 4:58 pm
 

No news bad news for Umenyiora

The Giants have a lot of good d-lilnemen so Osi holding out and being under contract is not smart especially if it's costing him 30,000, a day.  You are under contract so it's really nothing you can do as long as they have someone to take your place.  Holding out only helps the player if he's not losing money.  If you are holding out and losing money you are making a bad move period.  The owner is getting his money back from you, hello!Cool


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