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Umenyiora feud getting hotter

Posted on: July 29, 2011 11:29 am
Edited on: July 29, 2011 3:37 pm
The Osi Umenyiora staredown is real. The guy is ticked and serious about getting what he wants, which is why he wasn't at the Giants' facility Friday morning.

If he fails to show up for training camp, he'll start absorbing a $30,000 per day fine. Some agents wondered if the league could impose the fine with the CBA not ratified, but an NFL spokesman told me Friday it could -- because it was part of the agreement that players approved on Monday.

But this isn't about a fine. This is about integrity, and Umenyiora contends in an affadavit that was part of the Tom Brady antitrust suit that Giants' GM Jerry Reese didn't live up to his word when, in 2008, he promised that if Umenyiora were a productive player for two years he would reward him with a new contract or trade him to a team that would.

Neither has happened, and as of Thursday night neither Umenyiora nor his agent had spoken with Reese.

So the situation is hot, and it could get hotter. One source close to Umenyiora told me the defensive end is so steamed he won't play another down for the Giants. That's fine, execept he's under contract to the club for another two seasons. So he's stuck. The Giants don't have to do anything except collect fines for each day he misses.

Plus, Umenyiora lost some leverage Thursday when the Giants re-signed Mathias Kiwanuka, a pass-rushing specialist who missed most of last year with a neck injury. Only Umenyiora is a premier pass rusher, who last year produced 11 sacks and an NFL-record 10 forced fumbles.

At some point, preferably soon, this needs to be resolved -- and the Giants know it. They should put the Umenyiora issue behind them quickly, then move on. It's a distraction that nobody -- not Reese, coach Tom Coughlin or the Giants -- needs heading into a season where they're trying to return to the playoffs.

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Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2011 1:50 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

Bottom line, Osi is a great player and has done great things for us. It sucks the way such events have unfolded but I do feel a compromise should be made. I'm a little surprised Reese is taking such a hard stance on this? Usually he helps out his own, unlike the City of brotherly loves team who kick their players to the curb for various undeserved reasons. Give him a million more a year, plus a boatload of cash based on incentives. This way he gets some upfront cash and plays well enough for the remainder of his contract to get even more cash. if this goes on that much longer his disdain for Reese and Co. May be irreversible and we could lose one of our better defenders in Giant history, it would be a shame for him to go out that way. He has done enough for me to which I think he deserves a restructured contract, nothing crazy but like I said before, a bit more cash and plenty of incentives.

Since: Aug 7, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2011 1:41 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

I really don't know what Osi's argument is.....

Here is the quote from the affadavit he filed..."In early April 2008, approximately two weeks before the start of the New York Giants offseason conditioning program, I, Osi Umenyiora, had a meeting with the general manager of the New York Giants, Mr. Jerry Reese. After about an hour of discussing my current contract, as well as the contracts of other defensive ends currently playing in the National Football League, Mr. Reese told me that two years from the start of the 2008 league year, if I was currently playing at a high level, we'd either renegotiate my current contract so that it would be equal to that of the top five defensive ends playing or I would be traded to a team that would do that. Before leaving the meeting, I asked Mr. Reese twice if he was absolutely sure that would be the case. He then told me that he was an honest and church-going man and that he would not lie, which I believed to be the case. Under the penalty of perjury these statements are true and accurate."

So what I take is that if he performed well in the 2008 and 2009 season, he would be rewarded with a contract extension/new deal.

Well he missed the 2008 season for an injury he substained during a preseason game against the Jets. 2009, he had an average year at best....he didn't even start most of the games (thanks to Kiwanuka winning the spot) and he bitched the entire season.

Year Team G GS Total Solo Sck Sfty FF FR
2009 NYG 16 11 29 19 7.0 0 4 4
2010 NYG 16 16 48 33 11.5 0 10 1

So where is his argument? I could see if he had a season in 2009 like he did last year, he'd have a point.

I say trade him....make another team pay to deal with this drama queen.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 29, 2011 1:31 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

 The guy can have one unlucky year due to injury or lack of performance and will be cut without a second thought, but if he out performs his contract(like CJ2K), he is held accountable to finish it to the end because he made a "promise", and even then he isn't guaranteed a new contract.. If I'm not mistaken management made a promise to the player by giving him the contract, so why is the only party completely held responsible for their "promise" are the players?? 

Everything you mentioned above was agreed to by the players when they've signed every CBA the league has played out.  The players have agreed to honor every game of any contract they sign.  The players have also agreed to terms that allow the owners to cut them at any time.  This isn't the owners breaking the rules, this is a clause in the CBA the players and their union signed off on.  And for the record the owners are forced to pay every nickel of the guaranteed money in a contract before or as they cut the guy. Most of the time there is no guaranteed money left so a player not as good or as useful to a team anymore is cut and becomes an UFA.  Once again, those are the rules the PLAYERS agreed to. 

By the way, there is no such thing as "overperforming".  A player's responsibility is to play as well and as hard as he possibly can for his entire contract, just as you or I are expected to do our job as well as we can for our employers.  When a player is negotiating a new deal with an NFL team, nothing stops them from negotiating bonuses in their contract that allow for that player to be compensated if he reaches certain levels on the playing field.  But if the player doesn't negotiate these things, too bad so sad. Wait until your next agreement and get it done properly next time. 

Tell me something. If what you call "overperforming" exists, then surely "underperforming" has to exist as well.  Or does that only go one way? Jamarcus Russel and the Raiders signed a deal that included 35 million dollars of guaranteed money.  He was the biggest bust I've ever seen in my life, one big overweight pig that couldn't throw a spiral or run 5 yards without needing a puffer.  When do the Raiders get back some of that money from Russel?  Answer: Never.  The CBA doesn't allow for that, the owners agreed so they abide by the rules of the CBA.  In return to make up for the losses their incur from bad contracts like Russel's and dozens of others, the owners can cut a player after his guaranteed money is paid and earned.

You want the owners to honor bad contracts and eat those losses yet rip up contracts for players that "overperform" and pay them millions more or extend them early where massive signing bonuses  exist and if the player gets hurt before his extension the owner doesn't see a nickel of that money back???  How could a business survive under those circumstances?

Stallworth picked up a cool 4 million dollar roster bonus before he got caught drinking and driving and killing somebody yet didn't have to pay a nickel back.  Haynesworth cashed a roster bonus for over 20 million dollars then came to camp overweight but the Skins couldn't do a thing about it.  Stafford on the Lions ( so far and I pray things change) is guaranteed 42 million dollars in his deal including an instant 18 million dollars he got as a signing bonus but has produced nothing due to injuries.  If that continues when do the Lions see a refund for that catastrophe?   I could go on and on but you won't understand..... 

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2011 1:17 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

The reason why this hasn't been as big an issue as the Palmer story is because the Giants don't have a history of players doing this whereas the Bengals do.
You don't hear about the Giants having contract problems like you hear the Bengals and in particular Mike Brown having with players year after year.
The Bengals are notoriously cheap - 1 scout on staff as an example, they've told Marvin Lewis that was going to change but it hasn't.
Mike Brown has shown a history of being inflexible to the point of not getting enough value for players when he could trade them and fostering an environment where players & the team are put in an untenable position the Giants don't do that.
Mike Brown's father was and still is well respected in the game but he's done so much to tarnish that image whereas the Mara's have not done such a thing to their family legacy in the NFL.
Look at the big picture and you'll see why the media and most fans have treated this differently than the palmer situation, look at the facts and all shall be explained.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 29, 2011 1:14 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

Sure the owners get their money back when big contracts don't perform.  Have you missed all of the verteran cuts that have taken place recently?  So the owners don't need to live up to their contracts, they can cut a players at any time, but the players do?  Nice double standards.

Are you stupid? The owners cut players when their guaranteed money is done and their commitment to that player as per the contract that was signed is fulfilled.  And if there is guaranteed money still left in the deal, the owner has to write the check or trade him to somebody that will write the check but he can't just cut him.  The players agreed to these rules in every CBA they have ever had.  The players and their union agreed to allow the owners out of a contract as long as guaranteed money is paid and done with.  The players agreed in the CBA to play out their deals to the end, regardless of salary.  If the players don't like the rules, then change them at the bargaining table.  If not, shut up and play.  The owners don't break any rules when they cut players but the players ARE breaking the rules when they refuse to report to camp. Those are the facts, not my opinions...  learn a little about the NFL and its rules before you reply to my post 

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2011 1:12 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

Osi, forget about the Giants, come to New England, play with the Pats.
Join a DL that will have Big Vince, Ty, & Albert, REALLY give the league a view of what the new fearsome foursome could be!
Win a ring and go out on top!

Since: Nov 16, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2011 12:59 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

I think you are the moron my friend(no offense), but I'm tired of seeing the fans always taking the owners side in these situations.. I mean if you take into the consideration that a "promise" is what's causing a player in cincinnati to retire right(read the article)?? The guy can have one unlucky year due to injury or lack of performance and will be cut without a second thought, but if he out performs his contract(like CJ2K), he is held accountable to finish it to the end because he made a "promise", and even then he isn't guaranteed a new contract.. If I'm not mistaken management made a promise to the player by giving him the contract, so why is the only party completely held responsible for their "promise" are the players?? This is the one thing about this sport that I literally can not stand. Also don't put the "unwritten promises" all on the players.. For each broken promise by a player, at least five-times as many have been broken by an owner. It goes both ways my friend, it's called business, just on a monetary scale above you and I. If your boss told you that you get employee of the month twice in a row, you get an extra $10,000 a year. I think you my friend would be trying your damnedest to get that. Then when you do and ask your boss about it, he goes "what promise?" you'd be pretty pissed yourself, written out or not. It's the player who is literally out there breaking his neck so a guy who has a few extra zero's at the end of his bank account, can sit in a nice comfortable press box watching the money just come rolling in.. Nice try tho man.

Since: May 30, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2011 12:51 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

Funny, I don't see the media siding with him like they are doing with Carson.

Why would they?  Carson Palmer plays for the Bengals.  Everyone feels sorry for him.  Osi plays for a credible playoff team.

Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2011 12:50 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

Guy is a top 5 perfromer at his positiion and he is making a backups salary.  he deserves to be paid more relatively to his performance... at least 8-10 million per year

Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: July 29, 2011 12:38 pm

Umenyiora feud getting hotter

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