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Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Posted on: August 3, 2011 10:10 am
Edited on: August 3, 2011 10:14 am
A league source on Wednesday denied a report that the New York Giants have lowered their price for disgruntled defensive end Osi Umenyiora from a first-to-a-second-round draft choice. According to the source, the Giants still are asking for a top pick, which hasn't produced interest to this point.

Umenyiora's agent Tony Agnone would neither confirm nor deny the report when reached Wednesday morning.

Umenyiora insists that the Giants have not been fair with him and that GM Jerry Reese in 2008 promised him a new contract or a trade if he had two good seasons of play. Umenyiora, who is under contract with the Giants the next two seasons, set a league record in 2010 with 10 forced fumbles and believes he lived up to his end of the deal.

The Giants apparently don't. They have not changed their position with him, other than to grant him permission to seek a deal -- with a first-round draft pick the price. Under terms of the new agreement between players and owners, firsrt-round draft choices cost considerably less -- about 40 percent less -- which increases their value.

Result: Clubs are more reluctant to part with them now than they were a year ago.

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Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: August 4, 2011 12:44 am

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

You got a point. I mostly agree with that. Osi did sign a contract and he should honor it. But what about Suebert and O'Hara. They were cut under contract. Should teams not also honor their contracts. You can't have the cake and eat it too. It's got to work both ways. If a player should honor his contract, then the team shouldn't be allowed to cut players under contract unless the contract is guaranteed and they want to eat the dead money. Fair is fair. 

Since: Aug 18, 2008
Posted on: August 4, 2011 12:43 am

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

It kills me seeing quality players who are already making a good chunk of change compared to the rest of the world whine and bitch about money and contracts when they are being paid to bring a championship.  This usually entails for the team to bring in as many quality players as they can.  This also usually means that no one player can make all the money and play along side a bunch of low paid scrubs.  Take the "hit" Osi, let them bring in or keep players as needed and you'll get a championship (again).  But hey, if you don't want to win again, then by all means go somewhere else and rot.  Fans and owners want titles not whiney little bitches that are just looking for "green"er pastures.

Since: Feb 2, 2008
Posted on: August 3, 2011 9:52 pm

Osi: Man up already!

You signed a contract you said you were happy with. Be a man of your word and honor your contract.  If you only get 4 sacks next year, can the Giants pay you less?  I bet he's hiding an injury and trying to get as much guaranteed as he can all of a sudden. He's a poor bet to play all 16 anyway...  Be strong Giants, you have enough depth without him.  Let him sit out and cry like a little b****.  You won't miss him.

Since: Apr 23, 2011
Posted on: August 3, 2011 7:07 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

i really don't want him to go, i wish they would get work it out.....

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: August 3, 2011 4:57 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Problem ? Osi "says" the Giants would discuss amending His contract if He performed at a top level for two years of service. Answer Legal rule #1 "Alway's get it in writing". Osi did not. Rule #2 Before you sign it, READ IT again Osi didn't. He relied on His Agent (Rookie mistake). If a player (in this case Osi.) is to mentally challenged to understand rules #1 & #2 then higher a prominent lawyer to do it for him. The NFL & Team Owners are not out to "screw" the players they are approaching the game in a strict business manner. Yes it is about "profit & loss" with out profits the game is over for every one players included.
Osi is set to receive  a pay check of roughly $83,333.00 per month over the next 2 years, the average RN makes about $65,000.00 a year, ($5,416.00) per month, the average Brain surgeons makes about 500,000.00 a year , Osi will make that in 6 months and a day. Then during his Summer vacation make another 1,500,000.00 the rest of the year!
Yes he as injury risk (and a new fantastic NFL Health Care Plan)for him & his family . The Doctor has long hours, crazy schedules (year round) What ever Health Plan the Hospital he works for offers (Probably a monthly deductible & family plan a larger cost). As well as Mal practice Insurances and keeps a lawyer on retainer . 
Yes the longevity of a Nero-Surgan is longer then a NFL Player and NFL Players are a higher injury risk. They are all paid well for taking those risk but remember our Serviceman ,Policeman, Fireman put there lives on the line everyday for years and will not make the type of payday Osi is making to play a game. So Osi my advice to you is simple be grateful you can play a game, get paid better then a doctor and if you get hurt in the process be Thankful the "Nurse,the Doctors, Thee EMT's, The Police / Fireman who assist you in a time of need & pain do not ask you to renegotiate your treatment plan prior to or following the best care they can give you as well as all their patients for if they did you would really have something to "cry about".

Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: August 3, 2011 4:53 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

He has to look out for his future.
Because his $41.38 million 7-year contract cannot possibly protect his family from financial hardship? He's already banked $34 million of it. He's upset because there's only $7.1 million left in the next 2 years. He got a front-loaded contract and now he's complaining that the last 2 years aren't high enough? They could have back-loaded it and given him $10 million over each of the last 2 years of the deal. But they paid him early in the deal. Now he needs to deal with it.

How can any fan sympathize with this guy? He has to look out for his future? Please.

Since: Dec 29, 2009
Posted on: August 3, 2011 3:49 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

The Giants need to stop this from becoming a mess and pay him. He 100% should either get a new contract or rework the last 2 years he has and even if its just bumping it up to 5 million per season up from the 3. And he prob should be getting more then 5. He has to look out for his future. Football careers dont last long and this bullshlt that he should honor his contract and finish the next 2 years is a joke. Look what happened to Leon Washington for doing "the right thing" and being a team player. He winds up breaking his leg and the jets then cut him. NFL contracts are a joke and mean nada. Like Osi said look at O'Hara and Scheuburt. both had years left for millions and were leaders on that offensive line. They showed up for every meeting and practice while teaching the rookie draft picks also. Then both coming off inuries get the axe after all they have done for the team. If the teams dont honor the contracts with players why should the players have to "do the right thing" and playout their contract. They are called greedy and all types of other name for wanting a raise expecially when it was talked about between the player and the GM coming off a Super Bowl win. If Osi never had that injury the Giants would be paying him millions more then he can get now regardless of who gives him a new contract. Its obviously personal now which is why theyre not rewarding him because he didnt keep it in house. my thoughts

Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: August 3, 2011 3:04 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Hey -- those are the contract rules.  If the players don't like the rules, they could have pursued changing them to guaranteed contracts in their collective bargaining negotiations.  As it stands now, the contracts are not guaranteed.  This is why players negotiate upfront signing bonuses -- in Osi's case, $15 million -- to mitigate the possibility that the owners can terminate the deals if they wish.  Of Osi's 7 year, $41 million deal, he has already been paid $34 million for 5 years of work, of which we was hurt for a good portion of it.

Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: August 3, 2011 2:30 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

The owners are not "dishonoring" the contract when they cut a player. They are exercising a known clause in the contract. The player and the owner knows this exists when the deal is signed. If anything, the smart owner "honors" the contract by executing the best options available which will help the team win a title. The team releases the player from being a further liability (financially or otherwise) to the team. Fans should embrace the owner who cuts underperforming players and tries to make the team better. An underperforming player takes money that the team could use on better players or shoring up the team in other areas of need.

Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: August 3, 2011 2:19 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

when these players sign contracts, the owners can easily dishonor them by cutting the player, and not paying the contract signed.
This rarely, if ever, happens when the player performs at or beyond the level of the contract. The team says it will pay the player x millions and they expect y performace, or the player will likely be cut or traded. The player and the agent knew this when they chose this profession. Players are millionaires before they are 26 even when they make the league minimum in an average-length career of 4-5 years.

If you are afraid of being injured or crippled or will have physical problems later in life, don't play the game. It's not worth it. Use your education and become a professional in another field.

If you do choose to play NFL ball, and you have an average NFL annual salary ($1.9 million) for a few years or more, sock a couple of those millions into a trust so if you spend the rest of your dough on Escalades, boats, booze, and floozies, you'll still leave the game with more in the bank than most meople will make in 40 years. Count your blessings.

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