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Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Posted on: August 3, 2011 10:10 am
Edited on: August 3, 2011 10:14 am
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A league source on Wednesday denied a report that the New York Giants have lowered their price for disgruntled defensive end Osi Umenyiora from a first-to-a-second-round draft choice. According to the source, the Giants still are asking for a top pick, which hasn't produced interest to this point.

Umenyiora's agent Tony Agnone would neither confirm nor deny the report when reached Wednesday morning.

Umenyiora insists that the Giants have not been fair with him and that GM Jerry Reese in 2008 promised him a new contract or a trade if he had two good seasons of play. Umenyiora, who is under contract with the Giants the next two seasons, set a league record in 2010 with 10 forced fumbles and believes he lived up to his end of the deal.

The Giants apparently don't. They have not changed their position with him, other than to grant him permission to seek a deal -- with a first-round draft pick the price. Under terms of the new agreement between players and owners, firsrt-round draft choices cost considerably less -- about 40 percent less -- which increases their value.

Result: Clubs are more reluctant to part with them now than they were a year ago.




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Since: Jul 1, 2008
Posted on: August 3, 2011 2:10 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Very well thought out post. Performance incentives are what basis contracts need to be constucted.



Since: Dec 4, 2009
Posted on: August 3, 2011 1:59 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Osi to the Ravens would be a nice addition for our Super Bowl run.




Since: Aug 24, 2008
Posted on: August 3, 2011 1:53 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

How many people commenting on Osi's contract will make over 6 million in the next 2 years or next 20 lifetimes .Get real if he couldn't play football he would be teaching PE for 35k.Maybe





Since: Jan 29, 2007
Posted on: August 3, 2011 1:45 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

I love how everyone in here wants Osi to honor the contract that "he" signed for, what about the owners? Where are you guys when players are getting cut mid way through their contract? I don't here you guys jumping on the owners to honor the contract that "they" signed for. Pff, bunch of hypocrites.
Yeah, totally unethical to be "FIRED" from your job when you fail to perform. HONOR your contract; plain and simple. When will people understand that the players are employees and can be fired at any time for underperforming, same as you and I. How many times do players insist on renegotiating a contract, not so much for what THEY have done, but because someone else signed a more lucrative deal? If Osi doesn't want to honor his contract, sit hisazz for the season and see what kind of a deal he can get next year. Nothing "Hypocritical" about it.





Since: Apr 2, 2007
Posted on: August 3, 2011 1:42 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

You can make an arguement for both sides on this.  Unfortunatley, the owners hold all of the cards in this situation.  The reason why the Giants are holding out for a 1st Rounder is they know that no team will offer that, which forces Osi to play, sit out, or retire.  I cant see the GM promising him a new deal in a couple of years if he plays well, and even if he did, what is the definition of plays well?  I don't begrudge Osi at all for trying to get all that he can get from the Giants, since he watched the Giants cut O'Hara and Sheubert.  Yes it is a business, but the players have no financial protection




Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: August 3, 2011 1:28 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Scuba, he was only promised a new deal IF HE PERFORMED AT A HIGH LEVEL FOR TWO YEARS.  He clearly has not done that.



Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: August 3, 2011 1:25 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

I love how everyone in here wants Osi to honor the contract that "he" signed for, what about the owners? Where are you guys when players are getting cut mid way through their contract? I don't here you guys jumping on the owners to honor the contract that "they" signed for. Pff, bunch of hypocrites.



Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: August 3, 2011 1:18 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

I actually side with Osi on this one. On the other end of the spectrum, when these players sign contracts, the owners can easily dishonor them by cutting the player, and not paying the contract signed.

The reason I'd side with Osi is that he was promised a new deal and now the Giants are refusing to negotiate. While you can say Osi isn't living up to his word, it's just as easy to say the Giants aren't living up to theirs either.

Neither side has handled this situation very well.



Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: August 3, 2011 1:12 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Osi should have signed a 2-year contract. Then he would be a free agent now. Maybe that was not on the table, as teams like to lock players up for 4 years whenever possible. Perhaps Osi should have negotiated for performance incentives. What were the benchmarks that determined whether he had 2 excellent seasons? Pro Bowls. Sacks? Forced fumbles?

All of this could have been worked into the deal if the player thought he would outperform the deal in the first 2 years.

I'm in favor of deals with multiple performance incentives. If the player gets hurt or plays poorly, there is a base pay that will ensure the player makes at least the league minimum, which is a nice guaranteed payday. If the player meets certain incentives, he gets a much bigger payday. Win-win for everyone. Except the player who would rather negotiate a huge deal with a massive signing bonus paid based on potential, with no downside that season if he stinks on the field.




Since: Oct 5, 2007
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:59 pm
 

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

thank you Bfunk, finally somene making some sense. Osi is pissed, we know that but he is under contract. The Giants have every right in the world not to rework his deal and they've allowed him to seek a trade. Now if a team won't bite then he has to play because he's under contract. If he doesn't, let him pay the fines and cry like a baby.  The Giants hold all the cards and he's being a freakin baby about the whole thing. He has a serious misconception of his play, and obviously overvalues himself a great deal.  Be a team guy, suck it up and get a big pay day when you finish your time here. But the bottom line is you're not going to win this won, deal with it! Amazing because the Giants have always been well known for treating their players and personnel with respect and honesty.  So it's hard to side with Osi on this one. 


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