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Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Posted on: August 3, 2011 10:10 am
Edited on: August 3, 2011 10:14 am
A league source on Wednesday denied a report that the New York Giants have lowered their price for disgruntled defensive end Osi Umenyiora from a first-to-a-second-round draft choice. According to the source, the Giants still are asking for a top pick, which hasn't produced interest to this point.

Umenyiora's agent Tony Agnone would neither confirm nor deny the report when reached Wednesday morning.

Umenyiora insists that the Giants have not been fair with him and that GM Jerry Reese in 2008 promised him a new contract or a trade if he had two good seasons of play. Umenyiora, who is under contract with the Giants the next two seasons, set a league record in 2010 with 10 forced fumbles and believes he lived up to his end of the deal.

The Giants apparently don't. They have not changed their position with him, other than to grant him permission to seek a deal -- with a first-round draft pick the price. Under terms of the new agreement between players and owners, firsrt-round draft choices cost considerably less -- about 40 percent less -- which increases their value.

Result: Clubs are more reluctant to part with them now than they were a year ago.

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Since: Jan 21, 2008
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:56 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

For OSi, the problem here is that he is under contract.  I believe the players in the NFL are the least protected through their contracts, little guaranteed moneys, protections against career threatening or ending injuries, etc, he still signed the contract.  In hindsight he should have signed for less years.  We can say that the Giants are unfair, and that may be true, but this is a business and like any other profession that pays well, there are people standing in line wanting your job.  The Giants either want their employee to show up and perform his job to the best of his abilities or they want what they feel is fair market value for his services. 

  On a personal level,  I love the guy,  I think he's had more than one good year, but also think he missed Strahan on the other side of the line.  I think he made that adjustment last year and he's due to have another monster year in 2011.  The Giants are also strapped Cap-wise, so even if they wanted to, they may not be able to without weakening another part of the team.  Their Cap situation played a part in why Burress is in New York yes, but he Giant Blue.

    I believe he still has a lot of in the tank, but the Giants hold all the cards, just like most employers.  It's really in doubt now, but I still hold out some hope that they can reconcile and he's back on the field soon. 

Since: Sep 16, 2010
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:45 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

AGREED DESTINY, makes me not want to watch football. That is one reason why I like college football, for the most part, its free of all the greed that plagues the NFL.

Since: Jun 17, 2009
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:44 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Give me Carlson and a 2nd and you can have him Seattle, or to anybody a 2nd and a 4.

Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:43 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

I am so sick of bellyaching millionaires (owners and players alike) while I struggle to pay my bills. 

Since: Sep 16, 2010
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:37 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Wow Deuce, Wow! I can't believe you would take the side of a stubborn millionaire who will not fulfill his contract obligations. He is UNDER CONTRACT, which means he signed a deal to play until he becomes a free agent. That doesnt mean you get to sit out and cry about getting a new deal just because you feel you deserve it. Furthermore, if the Giants did give him their word on giving him a new deal, its understandable to see why they would be no longer interested in doing it. Hurt all year in 08, failing to live up to his expectations the last two, being at odds with your defensive coordinator and walking out on him. Not the kind of player you reward for his actions. If i were the Giants I would just bench him all year long, let him miss out on all his game checks if he doesnt want to report, let him get out of football shape, then say good riddens after his contract is up. F guys like him and all the other players like him. Same goes with Carson Palmer, another crybaby not wanting to fulfill his contract obligations, CONGRATS to Mike Brown for not trading Carson, eventually these players need to realize playing in the NFL is a privledge, not a right. They need to cut all these idiots out of the NFL and make room for the players who love the game and play to win, and play for the FANS, because the FANS are the ones who make the NFL possible. Shame on you Deuce.

Since: Jan 30, 2008
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:28 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Dude....Love you Osi, would hate to lose you....BUT... You have ONE (I repeat) ONE great year where you earned over 4million for the year.  Yes, last year was great but you severely underperformed previous years.  At best you were paid for your output, and there is no guarantee you repeat last years success.  So, please.....suck it up, and play out your contract. 

Since when is 4 million a year chump change?  Stop complaining, and play.  You are losing fans by the thousands--every article we suffer through.  Come out, play your ass off.  If you dont want to work for the GMen after your contract, fine.  Oh, and I dont want to hear the "hes paid less than other simalar players at his position" arguement.  He signed the contract, now honor it.

Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:17 pm

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Deuce, he did not play to expectations after he got that offer.  He was injured all of '08 and played so poorly in '09 that he was benched.

Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:14 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Yes, Osi got paid every cent of his contract in '08 despite not playing a snap all year.  He got paid every cent of his contract in '09 when he walked out on his Defensive Coordinator during the pre season, then went out and played so badly during the regular season that he got benched.  He even got every cent of his contract in '06 when he had just signed a new mega deal, then had a 6 sack, 24 tackle season.

Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:11 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

Okay so they gave this guy their word they would work on a new deal for him if he played to expectations which he did. And now they are telling him he is free to seek a trade since he is disgruntled but what lower the price which is rather high. if you think he is worth that then why not just give him the damn contract you told him you would? This is so a** backwards it's unbelievable. Are the Giants that damn stubborn? Between this and Mike Brown unwillingness to trade Carson Palmer from the Bengals I don't know who is being more ridiculous.

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: August 3, 2011 12:11 pm

Source: Giants' price for Osi hasn't changed

I agree with all of you..

I would trade OSi for a 2nd and 5, but I do not think the Giants will even be offered that.

If its a 3rd and a 6th, I think I would pass.  Even though, I just stated OSI is VERY overated, he still has value to our team.

I think I could live with a 3rd and a 5th in 2012, then a 4th round pick in 2013.  But I do not think we could get even that..

Anyone who thinks we could get a first is on drugs.  I hear some stupid dudes on these sites saying "I wouldn't give him up for a first"..
Dude, we will never got offered that.

Fellows, lets pray we get offered a 2nd and 5th.  My bet is we wont, and the winer will come back to the Giants with his wimpy tail between his legs..

OH yeah, I also read one article saying something like "a mean 300 lb DE_..  UM, Dude, Um, OSI is closer to about 250.  There are LB's in the NFL much bigger than him.  Thats why 230 lb RB run over him.  OSI likes to avoide tough guys, and just go after QB's..
Which is fine.  Fine for 3.1 million, NOT 6 million like Tuck, who is a complete player...

By the way, is Ramses Barden alive?    

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