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Sorry, Hue, check your history

Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:47 pm
So the Raiders acquiring Carson Palmer is now "the greatest trade in football?" Sorry, Hue Jackson, I don't think so.

I covered the Baltimore Colts when they dealt John Elway to Denver for first-rounder Chris Hinton, backup quarterback Mark Herrmann and a future No. 1 pick (Ron Solt). I later covered the San Francisco 49ers, who traded away second-and-fourth-round draft picks for Steve Young, two years after they traded away a first-and-second round choice for the right to take Jerry Rice.

But this is a bigger deal than those, right? Elway is a Hall of Famer. Young is a Hall of Famer. Rice is a Hall of Famer.

Then there's that Herschel Walker trade, a.k.a. "The Great Train Robbery," with Dallas resurrecting itself in a deal with Minnesota that included 18 players and draft picks. In essence, Minnesota gained Walker in exchange for three Super Bowls. I'm serious. The Cowboys turned some of the draft picks they acquired into Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson and Alvin Harper -- all key components of the great Dallas teams of the 1990s.

I guess that must have escaped Hue Jackson. Jackson is doing a good job coaching the Oakland Raiders, but he needs to do a better job of brushing up on his history.

I don't deny that this is a big move and that Palmer could be a serious upgrade at quarterback for Oakland, but Carson Palmer is not Elway, Young or Rice. He could be just what the Raiders were missing, but a little perspective, Hue ... please.

"He made it very clear who's in charge with that comment," said former Baltimore coach Brian Billick, now an anaylst for Fox and the NFL Network. "And we're going to remember it.

"This all depends on which Carson Palmer they're getting. Is it the Carson Palmer of 2005-06? Because he was pretty good. Or is it the Carson Palmer who threw those interceptions the last few years? If he's close to the Carson Palmer before he got injured he's going to be the best quarterback they've had since Rich Gannon. I think this is going to change the equation a little bit."


Category: NFL

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:00 pm

Sorry, Hue, check your history

I want a coach who believes that all the way.  We won the trade, good for him.  If you give me a guy who questions the decision your team made, I want him gone.  100 percent or nothing and that is why the Raiders will be back.  Hue, sir, you keep talking.  More I hear, more I love.

Since: Sep 20, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 11:51 am

Sorry, Hue, check your history

Judge, you Moron: If you actually knew what the context of that quote was you wouldnt write this imbecilic article.  Jackson later explained that he had no reservation when trading for Palmer because he knew exactly what he was getting, so the fact that he gave up two high draft picks doesn't mean anything to him.  But since you are so dense, I'll put it in simple terms:

Established Pro Bowl QB in the NFL  


two unproven rookies

Duh, thats a no brainer and "the greatest trade in football" because its not often that you get a chance to poach another team's proven QB.

Good QB's are at a premium in this league, any time you get to trade for another team's Pro Bowl QB, thats the greatest trade you can make in this game.  

If you are going to get paid for writing, maybe you should take the time to know what the fudge you are talking about. 

Since: Sep 7, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 11:42 am

Sorry, Hue, check your history

Sorry judge but check your history , the best trade was a number 1 pick to the jets for bill billichik

Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 2:35 pm

Sorry, Hue, check your history

Where does he say "ever"?

Show me.

All he says is it's the greatest trade in football.  Your jackass self has said the Packers or the Pats are the best team in football.  Does that mean everytime you said that you really meant best of all time?

If so you're still an idiot.  If not you're a hypocrite.  I already know you are both but you can pick one now.

Since: Oct 19, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 2:31 pm

Sorry, Hue, check your history

Hmmmmmm --- I don't recall that John Elway, Steve Young or Jerry Rice were Hall of Famers when those trades were made.

I don't think that Hue Jackson needs much of a history lesson here. He's simply a coach who is fired-up regarding his latest maneuver.

However, a reporter/blogger should, at the very least, critisize with accurate, comparable information.

Maybe something like: Steve Young had a 11td/21int record when traded to SF and didn't come into his own until he was 30/31 (for obvious reasons named Montana...)...

Or, that John Elway threw 148 tds and 140 int with 54.7% pass completions through age 31, compared to Palmer's 154 tds and 100 int with 62.9% pass completion...

"the greatest trade in football?" -- We won't know that for awhile. We will most certainly find out if it is one of the worst trades in football, much sooner.  Laughing

All I'm saying is, let history run its course before comparing to the history of Hall of Famers.

Since: Sep 29, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:14 pm

Sorry, Hue, check your history

You should go back and watch the 4-12 Bengals.  The dug holes so deep no one should have been able to come out of them - and when they jumped out (ala 28 points on Atlanta at half-time), they gave the game away on defense.  It was a disfunctional climate in Cincy with 2 VH-1 "celebrities" (TO/Chad); Palmer played his best game - when those two were out.

Oakland has a QB - I know - I suffered through the dysfunctional season with them - like so many others.  Palmers flaw is now his charachter - or lack there of.

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