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Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

Posted on: November 22, 2011 5:59 pm
Edited on: November 22, 2011 7:30 pm
 
Thank you, Denver.

That should be the memo Chicago sends out in the wake of the release of quarterback Kyle Orton because where we didn't know where the Bears would turn a day ago we might now.

Welcome back, Kyle Orton. His return to the Bears makes too much sense not to happen -- provided, of course, the Bears are the only ones in line.

That's another way of saying that Chicago isn't the only club interested in a quarterback. Houston lost Matt Schaub, and Kansas City just subtracted Matt Cassel. If the Texans and Bears put in waiver claims on Orton, Houston would get him based on its strength of schedule.

Both need him, but Chicago really needs him. I mean, whom would you trust -- Caleb Hanie or Kyle Orton? Orton not only has been with the Bears; he helped lead them to the playoffs. Teammates loved him then, and they will love him again ... because he's a quarterback who can win and who has won.

I'm not so sure about Hanie.

Anyway, where I thought the Bears were in trouble without Jay Cutler, they won't be if they can land Orton. As I said, it makes too much sense not to take place.

Reports out of Denver indicated that Orton and his agent spoke to the Broncos about a possible release after the Cutler injury, with the idea that Orton would move to Chicago. So why would the Broncos budge? Well, let me ask you this: Don't you find it more than coincidental that Denver released him the week the Bears play the first-place Oakland Raiders?

Denver needs help to catch Oakland, and maybe Orton is the guy to lend it -- provided the Bears acquire him. Anyway, if it happens Orton could ... and should ... keep the Bears in the thick of the playoff picture.









Category: NFL
Comments

Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: November 23, 2011 9:32 am
 

Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

Great post Salukiman - Love the line about being a fan, not a McCaskey. Hanie is the man for now, and he needs to be. He knows the system and the receivers and he knows what to expect from the protections he will get out of his O-line. But, Kyle Orton did a fine job in Chicago and for awhile in Denver when they put an offense around him. No one is claiming that Orton will be a savior, but he is a much better option than Enderlie would be should Hanie fail or get injured and he is a much better option than any of the couch-potato free agents waiting for their phone to ring. The Bears can not count on Cutler returning this year - we can hope, but no one knows how long the recovery will take and whether his thumb will allow him to perform at a high level, or not. This is a play-off caliber team and the Bears have plenty of salary cap space - so, yeah, McCaskey's - pay the man a solid wage for his six-plus weeks of work. He might be just what this team needs.



Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: November 23, 2011 9:31 am
 

Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

Great post Salukiman - Love the line about being a fan, not a McCaskey. Hanie is the man for now, and he needs to be. He knows the system and the receivers and he knows what to expect from the protections he will get out of his O-line. But, Kyle Orton did a fine job in Chicago and for awhile in Denver when they put an offense around him. No one is claiming that Orton will be a savior, but he is a much better option than Enderlie would be should Hanie fail or get injured and he is a much better option than any of the couch-potato free agents waiting for their phone to ring. The Bears can not count on Cutler returning this year - we can hope, but no one knows how long the recovery will take and whether his thumb will allow him to perform at a high level, or not. This is a play-off caliber team and the Bears have plenty of salary cap space - so, yeah, McCaskey's - pay the man a solid wage for his six-plus weeks of work. He might be just what this team needs.



Since: Dec 15, 2006
Posted on: November 23, 2011 9:20 am
 

Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

STOP!  You think its a back room deal or the fact that Orton had no chance at getting the starting gig back, three potential positions were open for him this season to showcase himself, and he didn't walk into Elway's office and ask for his release????  Come on.  For once a team did the right thing.  They could've done this two weeks ago and he'd have been pissed cause he thought he'd be on the street until next season.



Since: Sep 1, 2010
Posted on: November 23, 2011 6:56 am
 

Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

I think the Vikings should claim him and drop McNab just to put a big What the hell into the mix



Since: Nov 23, 2011
Posted on: November 23, 2011 12:43 am
 

Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

Ortons back



Since: Dec 14, 2010
Posted on: November 23, 2011 12:32 am
 

Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

ok, I take it you are an expert & a future teller.



Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2011 12:31 am
 

COLLUSION

I call bullshit.  Not that Orton had a future in Denver, but it just seems too convenient that they release him now.  Total backroom deal here.  This is the NFL, and teams don't do players' favors by letting them go so they can have a better chance to play elsewhere.  Fact is that the AFC West is wide open, and even Denver has a chance to win it.  That said, you have a read option quarterback in Tebow, who plays a physical style, and is one injury away from leaving your team with just Brady Quinn at QB.  On top of it, you risk him going within the division to Kansas City. Sorry, but one or more of these teams is paying Denver for the chance to get their displaced QB on the cheap.




Since: Nov 18, 2006
Posted on: November 22, 2011 10:43 pm
 

Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

Sounds good on paper. But how long will it take Orton to understand Martz's offense as Kerry Collins proved and Reggie Wayne stated you dont just walk into the huddle and run a new offense. Kurt Warner would be a better fit short term. Orton would be better of in Houston as Kubiak as designed the offense to limit QB mistakes. How about Orton teaming up with Rex in Washington



Since: May 23, 2009
Posted on: November 22, 2011 8:36 pm
 

Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

Orton would be a good addition to the Bears.  Cutler is gone for 6 - 8 weeks just to heal.  After that, he has to rehab.  From what I've read (Chicago Tribune), his coming back at the end of the season may be wishful thinking.  If that is the case, I'd rather have Orton as a back-up to Hanie than Enderlie.  Enderlie is a project, whereas Orton is a proven NFL QB.  Sure, some would say he isn't a true NFL starter.  However, he was a heck of a "game manager" for the Bears a few years ago, and he threw for over 3000 yards both years that he was a starter in Denver.  I don't care about the money - I'm a fan, not a McCaskey.  But still, if he clears waivers, the Bears won't have to pay him $2.5 million.

The best case scenario is that Hanie comes in and performs like he should in Martz's offense.  I would expect the Bears to "get off the bus running" for the next few games, so Hanie will have an easier transition, and Orton (if he signs) will have time to absorb the playbook.  If for some reason, Hanie struggles, or gets hurt, then you have a veteran QB who already knows the roster and some of the plays to try to secure a wildcard spot.  When Jay is ready to come back, the job is his.  But I'd rather keep Hanie or Orton in instead of pushing Cutler to play again too early.





Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: November 22, 2011 8:31 pm
 

Orton to Chicago? Bears can only hope

I know fans love a flashy QB but...and this is will sound crazy...

The last two seasons Kyle Orton had a better passer rating than Jay Cutler. 86.8 and 87.5 to 76.8 and 86.3. And while Cutler threw more touchdowns he also threw more passes. So Quarterback-wise the better play was in Denver because Cutler gave the ball away ALOT. 49 INTs as a Bear.

Now the problem in Denver wasn't Kyle Orton. And the problem in Chicago wasn't Kyle Orton.

In one place it was the mess created by Josh McDaniel and the rapid coaching changes. 3 years to rebuild after a system change. After a system change and alienating all your players probably a lot longer than that. No defense. 3 rookie starters on the O-line. Injuries to Harris. WRs in and out of the lineup. A non-existent running game. And a glory-boy drafted to replace him despite outplaying Cutler. 

Don't even mention the Bevy of draft picks the Broncos recieved. They turned those into Robert Ayers, Alphonso Smith, and DeMaryus Thomas. Then added Richard Quinn with a 2nd round choice and Knowshon Moreno with a 1st round choice. And of course they moved down from 10th to take Thomas and then used their own pick to replace Orton. 

Talk about a dysfunctional family - that's what the Broncos have been. 

 Moreno has been oft injured. never putting up 1,000 yards but he could come around. It probably will be a situation similar to Thomas Jones where he does it with another team. 

Ayers 61 tackles and 3.5 sacks in 3 seasons. 

Thomas 29 Catches. 

Smith not much in Denver - he did net TE Gronkowski in trade but it was the wrong Gronkowski. 

Richard Quinn, he's been cut. 

Then there's Tebow and they traded back into round 1 to get him. He's interesting. Is he a QB time ? Time will tell. 

In Chicago the issue hasn't been Cutler or Orton (and this year the team recognized it) it's been the offensive line and age and injury on defense.

The Bears are good. Kyle would help them stay good. A team that runs the ball with a QB that manages the game. Like Cutler had grown to be...like Orton always was. 

But if I'm Kyle, after being treated like I was the cause of the Bears problems and Cutler replacing me would make a super bowl win a reality - I'm not going back.  


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