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Source: Turner, A.J. could return to Bolts

Posted on: January 2, 2012 4:29 pm
Edited on: January 2, 2012 4:51 pm
There seems to be a lot of waffling on the future of San Diego coach Norv Turner, and, according to a source close to the organization, there's good reason. He believes that Turner and general manager A.J. Smith will be retained.

Of course, that's not set in concrete. Nothing is this time of year. But it's the first tangible sign that both will return next season.

Turner has two years left on his contract at $3 million per, and Smith has three years left at $2 million per season. According to the source, he believes that ownership is reluctant to fire each or both, then have to pay them.

But there's more to it than that. Quarterback Philip Rivers is a big fan of Turner and voiced his support Sunday for his embattled head coach. Team president Dean Spanos is reluctant to fire Turner, too, one reason he wants time to sit on the decision.

The public, of course, has made its displeasure with the Chargers known, but this year's team did not have the playmakers and talent people associate with the club. Injuries depleted the offensive line and wide receivers, tight end Antonio Gates played through a painful foot injury and the defense leaked too often.

Plus, there were too many turnovers, with Rivers committing a career-worst 20 interceptions.

Nevertheless, the Chargers won four of their last five starts to finish in a three-way tie for first in the AFC West -- with the club losing the tiebreaker to Denver. That the team fought down the stretch will count for something, but it's the second time in two seasons the Chargers missed the playoffs.

That will go into Spanos' thinking. But so will a business decision. That's one reason he begged off on making an immediate move, saying he needed a couple of days to think about it. 

Category: NFL

Since: Oct 29, 2010
Posted on: January 2, 2012 10:26 pm

Source: Turner, A.J. could return to Bolts

Heres my toughts on it- originally posted on Chargers page

 I blame AJ Smith for the teams demise too. He had a great mentor in the late Jim Butler and then was handed the keys to the team and has proven to be amatuer (as well as immature) in his decisions and conduct. The way I see things the headcoach needs to have the last word on who is on the team via drafts, trades or signings because the players need to fit the system. I dont see that being the case here.
Off the top of my head, the only early round draft pick thats panned out for AJ has been . Thank you but being great at finding unsigned free-agents shouldnt keep a GM safe. AJ should just be a scout.

AJ Smith just wanted to hire a puppet coach while making the team himself.
Norvs system is very pass oriented but they drafted a RB that barely caught any passes in college (in mathews defense hes done fair) and let go two of the greatest recieving RBs ever while getting nothing in return for them (LT, Sproles). 
They blamed the lack of rushing yds on LT getting older but during the previous seasons they let many of their ProBowl blockers go and didnt acquire comparably talented people. These guys cant push a Fiat in neutral! Hey Mathews had a 1,000 yd season. Thats hardly a benchmark when you can get there averaging 62.5 ypg
And that sack crazy defense has become a shadow of its former self. I get the impression that Norv doesnt know what or who he wants when it comes to defense. 

But the players LOVE Norv. A headcoach shouldnt be their bestfriend, he should be the head Nun at a catholic school yelling and screaming and hitting their pupils with sticks.
We had alot of injuries this season. There are injuries every seaon. When LT was hurt we had Turner step up. This team no longer has the depth it once did.

Marty may not have won any playoff games but he had a system set in stone. He knew what he wanted to do on offense and defense and he and Butler got those players and coaches together. AJ and Norv cant compare. They win afew playoff games with a team they didnt build but when those players have gradually bid farewell to San Diego the  has lost more and more. Im not saying "hire Mary back", I'm saying give me a headcoach with attitude and a GM that have the same vision of a team and will work well together.  

AJ Smith and his big ego and Norv Turner and his complacency need to leave.

Since: Dec 10, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 10:11 pm

Source: Turner, A.J. could return to Bolts

Uhhh... Martyball was 14-2 and holding a keep Drew Brees position and whatever with Phillip or Eli... granted no SuperBowls, but no premature ejockulation either. Only AJ Smith would do something that stupid.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: January 2, 2012 9:51 pm

Source: Turner, A.J. could return to Bolts

I blame Norv for the demise of Merriman and Tomlinson.
You can blame age for the demise of Tomlinson.  He hit the familiar 30 year old brick wall that many RBs hit.  He would not be the all time leading rusher.  He's still 5,000 yards away from Emmitt.  That's 1,000 extra yards, per season, since Schottenheimer was fired.  Stop talking nonsense.

There is no excuse for this team not having 2 or 3 superbowls by now..........
Martyball didn't bring the Chokers any Super Bowls either, but you're singing his praises like he invented the wheel.

Since: Dec 26, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 9:49 pm

Eat Crow Dean

Business decisions, smischness decisions...What to do?...What to do?...I and every Chargers fan (even Saints, Steelers, and Pats fans) are begging you to stop this madness. Those inconsistencies for the past 3-4 years after that 14-2 season when you approved the firing of the legendary Marty Schottenheimer appears to have yet materialize in your consciousness. If that was a business decision, then I don't what isn't anymore. Many football fans are still scratching their heads on that one. And to give a 3-year extension to Norv after that 8-8 effort in 2008 was even more of an insult. The Chargers and its fans deserve more from you, Mr. Spanos.

So, Black Monday has passed and every deserving coaches and GMs have been cleaned out but not in Bolts-land. We understand your predicament of eating $5 big ones every year for these bozos even if they're let go. Then, of course, you would have to hire a replacement to instill discipline in those very talented veterans and prospects. We hear your son just needs a few more years of tutelage and preferably from a visionary headcoach and manager combo. We know of such man out there and we prefer him to those idiots running your footbal operations. He will not come cheap of course. But that's just it! Winning the Superbowl is not cheap or easy and you will never win the Lombardi trophy with those Dos Locos.

The choices really is : 1) keep Norv and AJ for the duration of their contracts and have same uninspired effor for the next 3 seasons - A total waste of $15 million to emphasize that! or 2) Hire that one person that can run the house with discipline and vision as a manager, a defensive style second to none, and tutor your up and coming young GM-protege (your son) or 3) Fire AJ for he isn't the great talent scout you may belief him to be - he has been more a liability in scouting prospects, drafting cojones, and most of all, he isn't good at bargaining with franchise talents, then hire #2 as the GM and HC, and keep Norv to run the offense - he is after all posseses a genius offensive mind, I agree.

Mr. Spanos we suggest eat crow and fire AJ, Norv, or both. That Chargers and the fanbase will thank you for it. You know who we want to be running the Bolts.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: January 2, 2012 9:38 pm

Source: Turner, A.J. could return to Bolts


The Chokers will irrelevant for another season.  2 seasons without making the playoffs?  With that team?  I guess mediocrity is acceptable in San Diego.  After starting 4-1, they finish 4-7, pathetic.  And this is in a weak AFC West.  Norv Turner is an awful head coach and AJ Smith should be fired for replacing a far superior coach like Schottenheimer with Turner.  This just goes to show why the Chokers fail time and time again.  Winning just isn't that important.

Since: May 9, 2007
Posted on: January 2, 2012 9:34 pm

Source: Turner, A.J. could return to Bolts

JayJack. Believe is on the right path here. While not a Dolts fan,as a San Diego native i love that there is a NFL team in the city. If people stop going to the games thenit give Spanos a reason to up and leave.

Since: Sep 14, 2008
Posted on: January 2, 2012 9:32 pm

Source: Turner, A.J. could return to Bolts

This is making me sick!  So many good points on this board (except the Norv/AJ apologists) and we've got an owner unsure about what to do?  Look at the great teams.  They don’t go through a period of slow decline before they become great.  Our record of mediocrity should tell it all.  Look up north to SF.  See what a difference a good coach can make.  If AJ won’t fire Norv then AJ needs to go (regardless, AJ needs to go. I’m just offering more reason).  And just look at Norv’s coaching staff; no teams are asking us if they can interview our coaches.  No teams are targeting our coaches.  Norv and AJ have assembled a staff of lackadaisical losers.  Clean house.  It wouldn’t surprise me if AJ planted this little rumor about the owner being unsure.   

Since: Jan 6, 2008
Posted on: January 2, 2012 9:31 pm

Source: Turner, A.J. could return to Bolts

I think everyone who actually watched the games knows Rivers and not Turner is the reason this team lost 8 games. He was god awful this season with his habit of throwing untimely interceptions and poor ball control skills in general. If he really likes Turner as a coach, he should play harder and better for him. Turner is unfairly taking the blame for something that is not his fault. Turner did not make even one of those stupid throws, they are all on Rivers. Billy Volek could have led this team to 10-11 wins.

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: January 2, 2012 9:19 pm

Source: Turner, A.J. could return to Bolts

HILARIOUS!!!  Every other team fans can see what a JOKE of a move this is; meanwhile the Bolt Dolts weigh in that "Awwww, c'mon. They're not that bad."   AHAHAHAHAHHA

The Chargers are the joke of the NFL. They've wasted the career of a HOF RB, HOF TE, have let All pro players leave without ANY recompense. And a HOF QB walked away because the team was TOO CHEAP to pay him.  There was NO DOUBT from several franchises that Brees was healthy. Spanos (as he's showing now) is the cheapest owner in the NFL. He didn't want to pay the franchise tag on Brees and that led to their fist bed wetting vs the Jets back when Marty was HC.

Since Numbskull Norv's taken over, he's driven the team straight down into a death spiral! 2 playoff wins, then 1 playoff win, then zero playoff wins, now back to back seasons without even making the playoffs in the AFC Wurst. A joke of a team in a joke of a division.

Since: Dec 26, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 9:17 pm

Eat Crow Dean

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