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No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

Posted on: January 3, 2012 2:49 pm
Edited on: January 3, 2012 5:08 pm
Dean Spanos' decision to retain Norv Turner and A.J. Smith wasn't exactly a surprise. There were rumblings following last weekend's defeat of Oakland that Spanos was considering retaining them, with one source on Monday telling me he thought both would be back.

And that's precisely what happened.

Turner had two more years left on a contract that pays him $3 million per, and Smith has three more years left on a deal that pays him $2 million annually. But money was not the consideration here, I was told. Spanos is simply resistant to change, reluctant to make a sweeping overhaul unless he feels he must, and with the Chargers winning four of their last five he believed Turner deserved another chance.

It couldn't have hurt, either, that star quarterback Philip Rivers spoke out in favor of retaining his coach after the Chargers finished the season. Rivers is not only the club's best player; he's the spokesman for the team. And when he defended Turner, he had to make an impression with Spanos.

This doesn't mean that Turner is in the clear. On the contrary, the club missed the playoffs the last two years, and that's a problem. Spanos won't tolerate another 8-8 season, so Turner has been put on alert. My guess is that he either wins the AFC West next season or it's on to another coach.

But at least he has the chance.

A week ago, I never thought that was possible. But Spanos' move is made in the name of continuity, something the Chargers lacked over the years, and he must figure that if it can work for others maybe, just maybe, it can work for him. If you believe in your head coach -- and Spanos is fond of Turner -- then you give him every opportunity to prove you right.

Spanos just gave Turner his last chance.


Since: Jun 23, 2011
Posted on: January 5, 2012 11:38 pm

No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

how on earth are aj and norv the loser of the past 2 dcades turner being retained. i think the owner is trying to piss off the fans so he can skate out of town to LA at the end of next year. thats the only thing that makes remote sense

Since: Apr 19, 2009
Posted on: January 5, 2012 5:21 pm

No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

Are you stupid or what?
Everybody on the planet had Turner getting canned.
I'd bet you my house payment that even Norv thought he was getting canned.
And I was sure hoping me was. I'm not even a Charger fan but I can't take another TV close-up of that guys mug. 

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: January 4, 2012 4:48 pm

No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

How a Bolt Dolt admits he's completely stumped with no good comebacks:

"You should use 'they' and not 'we' when you're talking about your team!"

"You shouldn't cheer for the teams you do!"


Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: January 4, 2012 11:22 am

No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

For the first time in my life (as a die hard Jets fan), I actually agree with a Patriots fan... hahaha.... Well put Snoochie.... Of course, I can't stop shaking my head over my own team's horrid decisions over the past few years... While we did go ahead and make some worthwhile additions, we also continue making blunders with releasing great players like Tony Richardson (which greatly affected out run game) and Vilma a few years back (who could have been a true cornerstone for our defense)- don't get me wrong, I like Bart Scott, but I like Vilma a lot better....  And don't even get me started on our shot at picking up Asomugha....  At the end of this year, I want only one person off my team and that's Brian Schottenheimer... And if he stays there, then Tannenbaum needs to go to....

Regardless though, Snoochie is right.... Turner is not the kind of coach that can pull it all together and SD ownership really needs to start reinventing their identity... The field talent is there, the coaching, not so much.... And btw, who lets Darren Sproles walk?

Alright, I'm done....  I will not wish you good luck in the playoffs Snooch, because I truly despise your team, but at least, today, we can agree.... haha.... And a side note, I despise you guys because of how great your team really is and as much as I hate to admit it, it's all due to Belichick's strategery and Kraft's steadfastness approach to finding good talent and using it in a solid system....

Since: Jun 14, 2011
Posted on: January 4, 2012 10:23 am

No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

I can't believe that the Chargers have kept both of these idiots!! Norv is a very good offensive coordinator (see Dallas), but a horrible head coach. AJ is not a good GM! You go 14-2 and fire the head coach and let your best QB walk after you lose in the playoffs!!! The main reason this occurred was that Marty wanted Brees as his QB and not Rivers. So AJ decided to get rid of both of them, otherwise his trade of Eli for Rivers would be second guessed. I realize that Marty's playoff record was not as good as it should have been. Remember, that first you need to get to the playoffs (see the Jets this year). But how many of those losses occurred in Cleveland, in unbelievable fashion, to really good teams like the Denver Broncos and Elway.

Everybody seems to think that great DC's and OC's make good head coaches. Other than Bellichek they are pretty much wrong. See Norv, Dave Wannstedt, Mike Martz, Spagnulo, etc.

SD is in the bind they are in due to AJ Smith's stubborness and attitude. Otherwise, Marty would still be your coach and Brees would still be your starting QB and who knows how many AFC championship games you may have played in by now, not to mention Super Bowls.

As a die hard Dolphins fan, we have been suffering ever since Wannstedt became head coach and forced Marino out. Then when Brees became available, the geniuses in charge passed on him. The Dolphins have gone through 16 QB's since then. You are nothing without a great QB, which Brees is, and a really good HC, which Norv isn't and Marty was!!!!!

Since: Nov 23, 2011
Posted on: January 4, 2012 9:58 am
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Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: January 4, 2012 7:08 am

No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

Hey Clark.  You just came out and admitted that you were in error.  Of course a lot of us were about Turner.  Don't get me wrong, but I was wondering if you could share some of your humility with your colleague on the college football, Dennis Dodd.  Dodd has selective amnesia, and is never able to remember/admit that he was wrong about something he predicted/wrote. 

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: January 4, 2012 2:17 am

No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

Thuf-  And this team just beat your beloved Raiders right out of the playoffs-  how did that feel?  a dysfunctional organization?  look no further than the RAIDERS my friend.. what was it 2002 when you last sniffed the playoffs?  leading the league in penalties is your only claim to fame, dont talk trash when your organization has one of the worst winning percentages of the last decade idiot.

Since: Oct 6, 2010
Posted on: January 4, 2012 2:07 am

No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

One last thing, Lost Boy Steve, you seem to have an error on your profile.  It lists your favoite teams as the Bears, Bulls, Black Hawks and Yankees.  I am not a Geography Professor, but I believe Now York is nowhere near the Windy City. Nothing is more detestable than the fan who cherry picks their favorite teams, such as the Lakers, Yankees & Patriots.  Pick a team, along with the accompanying teams (Cubs for example) in the same zip code or area code.  I shall call you Golden Corral Steve from now on....just like a buffet of teams to choose from and go with what looks best.    

Since: Oct 6, 2010
Posted on: January 4, 2012 1:57 am

No shocker that Turner, A.J. back

Michael Haynes, Rex Grossman, Tommie Harris, Ced Benson, Greg Olson, Chris Williams, David Terrell agree that Craig Davis is bad. Hey wait, those guys (along with another three years where the bears did not have a first round selection) sure are a great group of players the Bears were able to cultivate and help create a dominant force in the NFC North.  Heck, even Rashaan Salaam and Walt Harris find that funny.

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