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Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

Posted on: February 4, 2012 6:29 pm
Edited on: February 4, 2012 6:39 pm
 
INDIANAPOLIS -- Bill Parcells belongs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but he may not get there -- especially if Tom Coughlin wins Super Bowl XLVI.

Think about it. With a victory, Coughlin will have won as many Super Bowls with the Giants as Parcells (2). Plus, he has the added attraction of leading the expansion Jaguars into two conference championship games.

That will enhance Coughlin's chances, but it could work to undercut Parcells, who did not make the cut from 10 to five Saturday in the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection.

Parcells' record includes three Super Bowl appearances, two Lombardi Trophies and playoff appearances with four different teams. That should count for something, but, apparently, it doesn't count enough for Parcells' inclusion. Not yet, anyway, and it sure looked as if this year might be his best shot to get in.

I understand the knocks on the guy -- including his overall won-loss record (172-130-1) -- but look how he fared against Hall of Fame coaches Bill Walsh and Joe Gibbs in the playoffs. He was 4-1. When it mattered most, his teams responded.

Yes, he sold himself as a free agent to clubs. Yes, he let his New England team fly home from a Super Bowl while he flew to cut another head-coaching deal. Yes, he could be difficult to deal with. But the guy was successful in four different places -- taking struggling franchises to the playoffs.

Plus, there is this: Look at the team's that are here for Super Bowl XLVI. One is coached by Bill Belichick. The other is coached by Coughlin. Both are products of the Parcells coaching tree, having served on the same staff in New York under the former Giants head coach.

A Hall of Fame writer I respect once told me that when you consider people for Hall of Fame consideration you must ask if you can write the history of the game without them. I look at those Giants teams of the 1980s and the Patriots and Jets of the 1990s. Heck, I even look at Dallas and how he put the Cowboys back on the map in the past decade.

So can you write the history of the NFL over the past three decades without Parcells? I think you have your answer.






Comments

Since: Jan 19, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2012 5:20 pm
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

OK  heres one for you parcells backers.  Dick vermeil.  He took over a team worse than the giants in their division during the same era.   He took them to the SB in 6 yrs and lossed.  Came back in mid 90s with the putrid rams, won a SB and promptly retired. He leaves the keys with Martz, enough said, and even Martz couldnt help but take them to a SB...and lose. Then Vermeil rebuilds the Cheifs takes them to playoffs. HOFER?



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2012 3:17 pm
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

Judge, are you that inept? Parcells made 3 SB appearances and took the Jets 2 years removed from 1-15 to the AFC Title game with Vinny Testaverde as QB. That accomplishment alone makes him a HOF coach. Your entire premise is pathetic.
How does any of that contradict what Judge said?  Judge said Parcells and Coughlin both won 2 Superbowls -- that is absolutely correct.  You are also correct that Parcells lost a 3rd.  That does not make Judge's statment inaccurate.  Judge said that Coughlin took the expansion Jags to two conference championship games.  Again, the fact that Parcells took the Jets to an AFC championship game does not contradict what Judge said.  Now we can debate whether or not taking an expansion team to two conference championship games is more impressive than taking the Jets to an AFC conference championship game ( I for one would disagree with your assertion that taking the Jets to an AFC title game, where they lost, "alone makes him a HOF coach" regardless of who the QB was---SB have been won with the likes of Trent Dilfer and Jim Plunkett  for example) or whether the 3rd SB appearance should do it, but it is certainly a long way from a "pathetic" premises -- especially since Judge actually seems to agree with you and believes Parcells SHOULD in the HOF.  He did not say put Coughlin in and keep Parcells out.




Since: Jan 14, 2012
Posted on: February 6, 2012 2:44 pm
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

Ha! Parcells joins Jimmy Johnson as 2 time Super Bowl winners with no HOF. Couldn't happen to two nicer guys.



Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: February 6, 2012 1:38 pm
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

For the 'Writers" to not put in Bill Parcells, just shows how out of touch these so called writers are.  They need to do everything to hang onto their crediblity in the first place, being a member of the media in America anyway, but this just solidifies how ridiculous these idiot writers who get to vote are......



Since: Jan 8, 2012
Posted on: February 6, 2012 12:23 pm
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

With 2 rings you are at least going to get on the ballot but its no sure thing. However you have to look at the immediate legitimacy Parcells brought to every franchise he has gone to. The stability he brought to the Pats , Jets, Cowboys and even the Dolphins(who have gone downhill after his short tenure ended)combined with his overall presence he commands with an organization make him a no brainer. Parcells was a tough coach but he also had great relationships with his payers and knew how to get the best out of different personalities. Just look to the difference in how he related and treated Lawrence Taylor vs. Phil Simms. Totally different approaches yet he was able to get great careers out of both of them and make it work within the framework of the team. Belichick has won with 1 QB and 1 franchise with the only other team he coached he failed miserably. So for both Tom Coughlin and Bill Parcells they showed the ability to adapt to different situations and in different eras of the game. Furthermore if you want to get into coaching trees and start with Bill Walsh you have to end with having Bill Parcells right up there. I mean he has 2 assistants who use his philosophies of how to run a team from a discipline standpoint as well as defensive minded standpoint and they have 5 superbowls between them. Oh yeah throw Sean Payton and his SB ring in there as well. Thats about as good as it gets period. He is an alltime great coach and irreplaceable in the history of the National Football League.




Since: Oct 13, 2007
Posted on: February 6, 2012 11:07 am
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

"He wants me to cook the dinner; at least he ought to let me shop for some of the groceries.?"
Which is funny, cause parcells is a heat-up-some-hot dogs-in-the-microwave kinda guy.  And chips.  oh, and those kids fruit snacks. 
Eat over the sink.  Repeat. 

Yeah, he's some cook!






Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: February 6, 2012 11:05 am
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

Parcells was a blow hard.  he won 2 superbowls over 20 years ago.  and hasn't been to one since '96.   The later stages of his career have been a joke.

Parcells hasnt coached in a decade dumbass!! 



Since: Feb 2, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2012 8:58 am
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

Parcells was a blow hard.  he won 2 superbowls over 20 years ago.  and hasn't been to one since '96.   The later stages of his career have been a joke.

2 superbowl wins don't automatically qualify you for a HOF induction.  He skipped out on every team he coached. 



Since: Jan 19, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2012 7:46 am
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

Parcells won two super bowls, coughlin has won two hell, TOM FLORES has won TWO (similiarly about 4 yrs apart) I believe Seifert won two.  The point is winning two of 46 super bowls doesnt guarantee a HOF spot. This coaching tree thing ambiguous at best.  Surrounding yourself with good people is the way successful people succeed/win. So are the personnel a product of the leader or the leader more of a leader of the product?  Did Parcells win those super bowls or was it plays by his well coached players who made them.  Parcells is no lombardi nor shula noll hala etc.  Those are HOF coaches.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: February 5, 2012 9:23 pm
 

Deserving Parcells' HOF candidacy takes a hit

Think about it. With a victory, Coughlin will have won as many Super Bowls with the as Parcells (2). Plus, he has the added attraction of leading the expansion into two conference championship games
Judge, are you that inept? Parcells made 3 SB appearances and took the Jets 2 years removed from 1-15 to the AFC Title game with Vinny Testaverde as QB. That accomplishment alone makes him a HOF coach. Your entire premise is pathetic.


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