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Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:16 pm
OK, now that New Orleans coach Sean Payton and GM Mickey Loomis have taken "full responsibility" for Bounty Gate, it's time for the NFL to swing the hammer and penalize them, former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and the Saints organization.

I know that commissioner Roger Goodell wants to get this right because, essentially, what the Saints and Williams, Payton and Loomis fostered was a program that flies in the face of the player-safety push that Goodell has made a mantra of his last three years.

But it's more than that, of course. It's outright disrespect for Goodell, his office, the league's constitution and by-laws and, frankly, common sense. So look for Goodell to drop the hammer on everyone.

The only question is: When?

Sources tell me it could be anywhere before or after the league's March 25-28 owners' meetings in Florida, but they also tell me it absoultely, positively will not happen there. Nor should it.

I would expect Goodell to weigh in on this sooner rather than later to put the ugly episode behind everyone. People tell me he's deliberating to give all parties a chance to say something, to evaluate all information and to make sure he's covered all bases before he makes a decision.

But we have Williams admitting his guilt, and now we have Payton and Loomis admitting their guilt. I don't know what more we need. I don't care how widespread this was. I just want it stopped from this point forward.

And so does Goodell.

That's why most persons expect a harsh penalty that sends a message to others that this cannot and will not be tolerated. Goodell will weigh his options, but none of them are good for the Saints or Williams. Nor should they be.

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Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 5:50 pm

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

One more thing. To everybody who wants to hate the Saints, that's fine. We all love our teams and hate the opponent. I don't even blame the Vikings fans for complaining, because we would do the same thing if we got that close and narrowly missed. It's really, really hard to get even that close. The temptation is great to look for every reason you can to blame somebody else for a loss. I've been there, I've done it, and looked like a crybaby. It isn't pretty, but it's human nature and we're all passionate. But the one thing everybody should remember is that your team may be just one disgruntled employee or player, one investigation or one capricious act of the all-powerful commissioner from being in the same boat with us Saints' fans. It isn't fun. You wouldn't like it. So try not to wish it on anybody else--yours could be the next team in the crosshairs.

Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 5:18 pm

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

There is this thing called spellcheck, HAGAR. it's DElusional, and TO, not TOO. Sheesh.

Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 5:16 pm

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Yes--absolutely no evidence--IF YOU CAN READ ENGLISH--that any hits occurred that were outside the realm of normal hits. Hard hits are the name of the game. If you want to see intentional hits designed to injure, see HARRISON, JAMES.

Since: Sep 29, 2009
Posted on: March 7, 2012 4:36 pm

Should other teams be punished too?

The Saints should undoubtedly be punished.  But information has come to light that other teams have participated in this sort
of thing too (Buffalo, Washington, Tennessee to name a few).  Should they be punished as well?

Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: March 7, 2012 4:20 pm

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Heres a suggestion, recant the admission of guilt by claiming you were under duress and, try applying for the temperary insanity clause or go outright Nolo Contendere and hope for the best because - your losing here.

Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: March 7, 2012 4:15 pm

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

No evidence huh?  Wow, any more "dilusional" Saints fans wanna crack at this?  Laughing

Admission too guilt, is allowing just due process too "begin".

Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 3:43 pm

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Wow--the only thing missing here is the constitutional right to due process. We've seen NO evidence, and heard comment from several players on that team that there were no bounties on anyone, only rewards for big plays.The NFL is kind of like the military, except it's the Uniform Code of Goodell Justice instead. He'll probably not hit the players too much because of fear of  the union. But the coaches and GM's work for the league and Goodell is judge, jury and executioner. Despite the fact that there is absolutely NO evidence of any dirty hits that injured anyone--the only one flagged in the Vikings game was a hit by a crawling Bobby McCray, that was a foul by letter of the law, but certainly not in intent--Goodell will do what he can to make an example of the Saints. Too much is being made of Williams', Payton's and Loomis' admissions of guilt. They are essentially plea bargains to a stacked court--admit your guilt and maybe we'll go easier on you. I used to think David Stern was the worst commissioner in major sports. Roger Goodell now makes him look like the Second Coming. True Saints fans know better, and will unite behind our team like never before. Those of you writing off the Saints are jealous--or ignorant, or both.

Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: March 7, 2012 3:30 pm

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

What Goodell done to the Patriots was not true justice, they still had a secondary 1st rd pick when they had their own 1st taken away.  I thought the punishment for that should have been worse because they still made it to the promised land in doing so because they made it to the SB the next year.
There are alot of people that stipulate - "Every team doe's it" And thats just not true, you take a long look at other teams that have struggled to get to where they have taken themselves only to get shot in the leg by another team cheating or, even a "Referee" cheating.  There is always the possiblity of "Referee's turning that blind eye for a buck".  I truely believe that there was more to this game than meets the eye.  Late hits, hits below the knee's, chop blocks, etc were all used in this game againt that Viking team.  Its not that the Vikings team couldn't come back from any of those turnovers, it was the fact that they couldn'y play against the Referee's either.
It all comes down to one thing here, ...If you don't punish a child for doing something bad, the child will do it again and then, test you in another way to see just how far he can get away with that too.  Eventually, it gets out of control, like it did for the Saints.
Now that these guys were caught, by chance ( if ever it was merited ), I would venture to say there is no return from any possible PR - ever, its a done deal they done what they did just to win a SB.  From here on out, they don't care anymore, they can all retire and sleep at night knowing "they won".  The punishment wont be severe enough unless their Championship is taken away from them.  Lets hope they all turn their SB rings back in and, they're awarded to either the Colts or the Vikings - where they should actally belong to in the first place.

Anyway,.....I think they should be judged, right before regular season begins, ( just like Goodell did to punish the Williams brothers of the Vikings, that being said and done helped to destroy that team right from the beginning of the season ) this way, the Saints cannot make any sort of comeback either in any close future and, that should be rightfully so.  The Rams should ( as inncocent of this mess as they are ) immediatly should start looking for a new Defensive Coordiantor because, Gregg Williams should be outright banned from the league and,.... along with all the other players, including personell involved.
You know, you just watch some of those late hits etc. in that Saint vs Vikings game keeping an eye on those Referee's and, see what they do about those infractions they "let slide".  Theres way more than meets the eye here.  Personally, I feel short changed by how the Referee's acted in that game.  When an honest flag is thrown, it usually doesn't surprise anybody, in the otherhand, it will, when there isnt any real reason to do it if its not warranted.  I think the next step is to investigate a few Referee's if not the entire group.

Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 2:28 pm

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

1/ I am not attacking NO Saints because I have anything against THEM. BUT, they ARE the only ones who have admitted their behavior and thus confession of guilt.

No, it probably wasn't an isolated incident in NO where Williams coached. But, a query of the players from the other teams that he DID coach would no doubt reveal that as would film reviews as confirmation, among other information. Without knowing more about what happened elsewhere it's hard to speculate. As for Gibbs, I would want some more proof other than some player saying Gibbs paid players $ 100.00 as a bounty. Could be a disgruntled player that Gibbs didn't play enough. Corroborating evidence, statements, etc would be necessary.

The Commish would probably take all of this on a case by case basis to determine the sanctions meted out to the rest of them. I'm sure  this will get a FULL on~going review. 

Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 2:19 pm

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Oh my. Your feelings are hurt. I simply said that maybe your Mom could help you out if you couldn't figure it out the issues. You directly stated the rest about projecting childish behavior onto me.Wrongfully , I might add. But W/E. Anyway......

And so what if he's a Pats fan. Perhaps he presumed that people kind of knew that Bellichick , et al had already paid the price for their clear vioaltion of NFL rules which is on page 105 of the NFL rule book, btw.

How does this incident compare to what Bellichick did anyway ? Frankly, Bellichick should have lost his job IMO.

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