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Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:16 pm
 
OK, now that New Orleans coach Sean Payton and GM Mickey Loomis have taken "full responsibility" for Bounty Gate, it's time for the NFL to swing the hammer and penalize them, former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and the Saints organization.

I know that commissioner Roger Goodell wants to get this right because, essentially, what the Saints and Williams, Payton and Loomis fostered was a program that flies in the face of the player-safety push that Goodell has made a mantra of his last three years.

But it's more than that, of course. It's outright disrespect for Goodell, his office, the league's constitution and by-laws and, frankly, common sense. So look for Goodell to drop the hammer on everyone.

The only question is: When?

Sources tell me it could be anywhere before or after the league's March 25-28 owners' meetings in Florida, but they also tell me it absoultely, positively will not happen there. Nor should it.

I would expect Goodell to weigh in on this sooner rather than later to put the ugly episode behind everyone. People tell me he's deliberating to give all parties a chance to say something, to evaluate all information and to make sure he's covered all bases before he makes a decision.

But we have Williams admitting his guilt, and now we have Payton and Loomis admitting their guilt. I don't know what more we need. I don't care how widespread this was. I just want it stopped from this point forward.

And so does Goodell.

That's why most persons expect a harsh penalty that sends a message to others that this cannot and will not be tolerated. Goodell will weigh his options, but none of them are good for the Saints or Williams. Nor should they be.
 






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rtsfantasy
Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 2:10 pm
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Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 2:04 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Wow what a friggin IDIOT.I see you fail to mention what should happen to the Pats 3 tainted spygate Super Bowls.

Is it possible for you to be civil ? Just because another poster didn't use an example you thought they should,doesn't give you the right to be disrepectful or decent. Calling people names on a message board is just a little more than nutty.



Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 1:56 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

What should happen very simple they (Players and Coachs involved) should get what MLB did to the Black Sox and Pete Rose there should be no discussion. Also the NFL should strip the Saints of their Super Bowl and strip them of draft picks for the next 5 years.

To hell with the CBA and the Union if the players really want protection then they should also step up and say no more we (The Union) will not protect or standby any player who was part of this.

Wow what a friggin IDIOT.I see you fail to mention what should happen to the Pats 3 tainted spygate Super Bowls

Is it possible for you to be civil ? He posed two examples. You must be a mind reader if you think that just because he didn't recognize the one you mentioned means you should insult the poster. Please be measured in your remarks. You could always ask them why he didn't use that example.

You'll get more mileage out of being decent, than not.



Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 1:49 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

 If you honestly believe the entire team should be punished in the way you have repeatedly suggested, I'd like you to contact Drew Brees, Darren Sproles, et al that they are playing next season with no chance at a Super Bowl even though THEY did nothing wrong.



Wc, that's a good response. And no doubt other players will feel its affects, directly/indirectly regardless of what Goodell hands down as sanctions.. Which IS the idea. And based on the fact that Brees was just snubbed by the Saints I think his playing days are short~lived in NO. Sproles has three years left on his contract. The rest can finish out, retire be traded , etc.

All of NFL contracts have behavior clauses in them , too. NONE are iron clad.Any player may be cut at any time for any reason that a team deems a players conduct is inapprpriate to stated team goals and NFL rules.

Explaining all of this will be no problem. But, apparently you condone the behavior of these coaches. So be it. We now know your real position aka business as usual. No crime, no foul, nothng to see here. 

My position remains unchanged. To get culture change and behavioral change , it must be forced. These men were asked to play/coach Professional Football. There are standards of conduct. Their violations were/are aggregious enough to warrant what I've maintained all along.They may be cut at anytime for inappropriate behavior. While the fact that the terms of their release are negotiable, depnding, the fact that a team doesn't want them isn't. Why play where you're not wanted.

I'm afraid we'll just have to accept each others positions and see how the Commish handles it.
 



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 1:41 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

They should make the Saint resign Ricky Williams and make him the starter.


rtsfantasy
Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 1:34 pm
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Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 1:32 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Yes,YOU do, if for no other reason that you replied. Perhaps ,you should find another thread if this is too much for you. Perhaps your Mom could help you with that.



Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 1:29 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

rtsfantasy! If you don't like it don't read it.



Since: Apr 3, 2008
Posted on: March 7, 2012 12:38 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Stop already! 

Bountygate is a crock.  Yes, Williams took it to a higher level but to think that NFL players haven't aspired to "take out" opposing players is unheard of unless coached by Williams is naive at best.  NFL Football is a violent game.  These modern day gladiators live to get a CLEAN shot at an opponent and render them incapable of performing for the rest of the game.  It's one thing if it's a dirty shot and a penalty but if the hit is clean, that's fine.

Do you think if Brian Urlacher nails a running back and rendering him uncapable to continue his team mates will scold him and ask him why he had to hit that hard when he didn't really need to?  His team mates will applaud the hit.  I'm sure almost every locker room has an unofficial reward system set up recognizing big hits.  In professional football guys get paid.  The money paid has already gone through the NFL system.

They do the same thing in college.  Look on the back of Ohio State's and others helmets.  Although not paid (?) the OSU players get a "buckeye" placed on their helmet for the same type of plays that Bountygate is famous for.

The bigger problem is this is publicized.  This type of thing needs to be players only.  Although a coach tries to use any means possible to win a game there are other ways to motivate and other ways to encurrage big hits.  These guys are freaks and freaks act freaky.  When they hit cleanly they should not be penalized. 

This whole bountygate thing is a pile of doo doo.


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