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Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:16 pm
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OK, now that New Orleans coach Sean Payton and GM Mickey Loomis have taken "full responsibility" for Bounty Gate, it's time for the NFL to swing the hammer and penalize them, former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and the Saints organization.

I know that commissioner Roger Goodell wants to get this right because, essentially, what the Saints and Williams, Payton and Loomis fostered was a program that flies in the face of the player-safety push that Goodell has made a mantra of his last three years.

But it's more than that, of course. It's outright disrespect for Goodell, his office, the league's constitution and by-laws and, frankly, common sense. So look for Goodell to drop the hammer on everyone.

The only question is: When?

Sources tell me it could be anywhere before or after the league's March 25-28 owners' meetings in Florida, but they also tell me it absoultely, positively will not happen there. Nor should it.

I would expect Goodell to weigh in on this sooner rather than later to put the ugly episode behind everyone. People tell me he's deliberating to give all parties a chance to say something, to evaluate all information and to make sure he's covered all bases before he makes a decision.

But we have Williams admitting his guilt, and now we have Payton and Loomis admitting their guilt. I don't know what more we need. I don't care how widespread this was. I just want it stopped from this point forward.

And so does Goodell.

That's why most persons expect a harsh penalty that sends a message to others that this cannot and will not be tolerated. Goodell will weigh his options, but none of them are good for the Saints or Williams. Nor should they be.
 






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Since: Dec 29, 2009
Posted on: March 7, 2012 7:45 am
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Wow, Judge also is a Goodell Ass kiss.  Man, get off his nuts... we know the media has no shame, they will back the powers that be just so they can stay in the good graces of Goodell.  



Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 7:19 am
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

What has been the Goodells emphasis AND record been on player safety been over his tenure as NFL Commissioner ? No 1 Mandate. Player safety. Player safety. Player safety.  These coaches directly AND willfully and therefore negligently violated the centerpiece of Goodells policies, Additionally, what they did is very possibly illegal. I can envision ALL SORTS of legal scenarios in which these a$$clowns never coach again regardless of what Goodell does.

I have two teenage sons who play travel ice hockey at a Tier One level. They play 2-3 times a weekend and practice four times a week at high speeds.I consider hockey a FAR more violent sport from the standpoint of physics dynamics amnd injury capability than Football would ever HOPE to be. The difference between players getting hurt and not is ALL in the attitude of what their coaches teach them.  It's no different in the NFL in rthe sense that if you have  players consistently injured because of this type of behavior, you really don't have much of a game. It just ruins it. NFL owners have MILLIONS wrapped up in these players. They like things like competitive teams ,great play and championships. Having their players unable to play is not useful to them in the long run AND they lose money. 

I like a good hit just like anyone else does but head hunting as these coaches admitted is wrong. You know it, they know it AND I KNOW IT and certainly trying to say as one of you did " A great, well played game is what brings in the fans and thus money. Having the best players play IS A MONEY WINNER.

"  Personally, I think that legitimately stealing signals, formations, etc. from your opponents is much more threatening to league integrity and reputation than providing players with incentive to injure.  Certainly it changes the goals of the team in certain situations but I highly doubt the Saints neglected their assignments to hunt down a quarterback with a bounty on his head."

With concussions the buzz of the sports world now, I would have believed that you would have given your emotional reponses much greater thought.  I've seen a lot of concussion injuries. It's a very serious injury. Obviously, none of you has played a contact sport like hockey or football. Concussions are the "unspoken demon" in professional and( less so now with greater education)amateur contact sports.

So you actually think that "stealing" signals has a greater threshold of integrity loss than injuring players intentionally ESPECIALLY WHEN THE COACHES ADMITTED IT WAS WRONG ? These guys KNOW they F'd up and are now apologizing to save their jobs. Sorry, but this went on for YEARS and with one of them mulitple teams. And using money as bait is tantamount to gambling in my opinion in addition to the potential for other legal issues. They deserve to LOSE their jobs. Who'd hire them now anyways?They'll always be tainted goods. No one is so good that they can't be replaced.I'm not trying to diminish your point which is quite valid, but really the comparison is like apples and oranges.

Again, THIS IS A BUSINESS. And like ANY other business owners are not in business to LOSE money. Having players injured is a money loser AND it is also a way for Goodell to keep a lid on rising medical costs for retired players. You people have NO idea how debilitating these injuries can be and that their effects last LIFETIMES.


If you guys want to see fine atheletes get trashed, go become arena football fans.
 



Since: Mar 31, 2008
Posted on: March 7, 2012 3:42 am
 

Death Penalty?

Anyone?????


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Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: March 7, 2012 12:23 am
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Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:17 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Respectfully, all of the coaches in question have admitted their part in this. There is also the element of a conspiracy here as well. They were actively engaged in these acts by organizing them, condoning them and actively planning them. I feel that there is only one penalty for each of these men, including Loomis. They should all receive LIFETIME bans from the game in any capacity. The Saints as an organization should be sanctioned with a ban from any play-off games for one year AND stripped of ALL 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft picks for two years and no participation in any supplemtal drafts.

I know this is very harsh. But if the NFL wishes to preserve the integrity of the brand, VERY stiff penalties must be exacted and the coaches set as an example of what NOT to do. It simply is bad business to ruin the ability of superior athletes through actions like these and thus deprive the other owners of their investment returns, the fans their enjoyment and the needless suffering of athletes who through no fault of their own were made targets and injured by peer~professionals. Surely this is the common ground among them all. And certainly, they uderstand that to play the game at this level, their professional integrity is always at stake and under scrutiny.

I'm sorry, but their is no rationalizing what they did by saying, " You are being unfair".

Talk about the punishment far exceeding the crime.  Your motto should be a " a life for a speeding ticket."  What a drama queen.



Since: Feb 5, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:12 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Wow... Let me start by stating that I don't think what the Saints did was anything but horrible.  However, the punishments you're calling for are more than a bit severe, DP.  You want to ban the entire coaching staff of a team forever, strip the Saints of 2 years of major draft picks, and restrict them from playoff appearances for a year?  That would without a doubt be the most severe punishment in the history of the NFL and possibly professional sports as well.  Not only would it penalize those involved but also those who had nothing to do with this.  Players who did not play for this team at the time but recently came to the squad would lose any chance at competing for a Super Bowl based on the actions of others.  Again, these actions were wrong and should be punished but what you're calling for is essentially the death sentence for the entire franchise.  The actions of this team have not compromised the league's integrity to the degree you seem to be suggesting.  I'm sure suspensions are forthcoming and possibly fines and/or lost draft picks as well but everything you're calling for is a bit much.  Remember Spygate?  Personally, I think that legitimately stealing signals, formations, etc. from your opponents is much more threatening to league integrity and reputation than providing players with incentive to injure.  Certainly it changes the goals of the team in certain situations but I highly doubt the Saints neglected their assignments to hunt down a quarterback with a bounty on his head.  As I said before, it was wrong and the punishment will be contingent with the crime.  The lynching you're calling for is simply too massive for the actions performed.



Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 10:54 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Respectfully, all of the coaches in question have admitted their part in this. There is also the element of a conspiracy here as well. They were actively engaged in these acts by organizing them, condoning them and actively planning them. I feel that there is only one penalty for each of these men, including Loomis. They should all receive LIFETIME bans from the game in any capacity. The Saints as an organization should be sanctioned with a ban from any play-off games for one year AND stripped of ALL 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft picks for two years and no participation in any supplemtal drafts.

I know this is very harsh. But if the NFL wishes to preserve the integrity of the brand, VERY stiff penalties must be exacted and the coaches set as an example of what NOT to do. It simply is bad business to ruin the ability of superior athletes through actions like these and thus deprive the other owners of their investment returns, the fans their enjoyment and the needless suffering of athletes who through no fault of their own were made targets and injured by peer~professionals. Surely this is the common ground among them all. And certainly, they uderstand that to play the game at this level, their professional integrity is always at stake and under scrutiny.

I'm sorry, but their is no rationalizing what they did by saying, " You are being unfair". 



Since: Dec 27, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2012 10:09 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Think Goodell is obviously trying to be more fair that the media.  Emails do not tell the whole story.  That is why judges cannot overturn certain parts of trial just through reading a tanscript because the printed word cannot convey what personal interaction does convey.  The jury sees the whole picture because they watch the entire trial.  You would do well to learn more about rushing to judgment and one day will look back at your assumptions and if you are truthful will admit that you got caught up in the momemt.  You do not know Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis or the Saints players like you think you do, and you are being unfair.  



Since: Dec 12, 2009
Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:51 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

....Drop the hammer on everyone?

So Buddy Ryan is going to be fined?  The Eagles?

Clark suffers from ADD......Or he's just senile...



Since: Nov 8, 2006
Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:08 pm
 

Now, when will Saints, Williams be penalized?

Kick Williams out of the NFL!  Thats the message.  Yes I know other coaches were involved but Williams name always appears on all teams questioned.  GOOD BYE WILLIAMS!


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