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Earth to Chad: It's not your move

Posted on: April 22, 2008 1:10 pm
Edited on: April 22, 2008 3:40 pm
 

So the Cincinnati Bengals reportedly rejected an offer from Washington for unhappy wide receiver Chad Johnson.

So what?

If there's one thing we've learned of the Bengals through this mess it's that they're consistent. From the outset they said they would not trade or release Johnson, and they've stuck to their plan. And they stuck to it because owner Mike Brown is not about to be bullied into a move by one of his players ... especially this player. Brown will make a move when he wants to, not when Chad decides he wants to leave.

Apparently that message is lost on Ocho Cinco, who keeps lobbying for a ticket to out of town. The harder Johnson pushes the more steadfast Brown becomes that he will keep the wide receiver, and you'd think Johnson -- or the people advising him -- would get the idea by now.

Anyway, I had to laugh when I saw that Marvin Lewis said he thinks Johnson should live up to his threat of not play this season. Now that's what I call hardball. Instead of trying to strike a dialogue, the Bengals dare the guy to carry through on their threat. Good for them. They hold the cards, and they know it.

I have to believe that Johnson does, too, only he can't admit it.

Category: NFL
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Since: Feb 24, 2008
Posted on: April 29, 2008 7:22 pm
 

Earth to Chad: It's not your move

If it was as simple as a team like the Redskins paying Chad's signing bonus, the deal would have been done already. I don't think any of us on this thread are completely right on how this whole contract situation works.



Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: April 25, 2008 10:37 am
 

Earth to Chad: It's not your move

Well said Red Hornet. Unfortunately, # 85 isn't listening. This morning on Sports Center, they had him on saying that he was going to win this thing, that he wasn't backing down. He sounds more like a spoiled brat every day. Grow up Chad! All you are doing now is screwing your teammates and as RH said, tarnishing what little is left of your image. And to think this all started because Mr. Stud Receiver ran the wrong route and tried to blame it on Carson Palmer, then later backed down. If you can't get it done with Palmer then you'll have a tough time getting it done just about anywhere else.

Bengals, I know you are trying to make a point, but making a point isn't going to help the team that much. The Bengals have so many needs, I really think it would be wise to trade this fool, if not this year, then next. Just get something for him without handcuffing yourself too much. 




Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: April 23, 2008 9:02 am
 

Earth to Chad: It's not your move

I appreciate the info guys, but...........$3 Mil to $8 Mil a year against the salary cap to have that dirt ball sit at home and not receive a paycheck wouldn't be a bad deal at all. 

That depends, are you a Bengals fan? I would think not. I sure don't want to see a spoiled loud mouth run the team, but if you can get out from underneath his huge salary AND get some picks and/or players for him, then that would be better than letting him sit and contribute nothing to the team or play and half-a$$ it.

It still bugs the devil out of me. Chad Johnson said he's no Terrell Owens, but now he sure is acting like him. He can't take criticism and after last season, his skills may be eroding to some degree. I'd rather have him, but if the boy doesn't want to be here, get something for him at the very least. I guess he just has too many commercials these days and has a receiving record or two, which has made his head grow so big, it won't fit in his Bengal helmet any more.  




Since: Mar 13, 2008
Posted on: April 23, 2008 3:09 am
 

Earth to Chad: It's not your move

Chad, all your doing is hurting your repuation and credibility. If you were so hard headed in your belief to be with a "Right now type Superbowl" team, why did you even sign your contract extension. The Bengals would have a serious cap hit i he to be traded. Coach Lewis is not going to put with this T.O. crap. Right now, the best thing Johnson can do is play the season, do the best he can. He needs to keep his stats up, in the event of next season, or the one thereafter, teams will want him. He is tarnishing his career by ruining his reputation. Hes a great receiver and an asset to the Bengals. He has entertained us, and we wont forget what hes done, but now its become tainted because of his childish behavior.

Chad, if you read these, play the year out, do what you were doing, gain everyones repect back. Live the now, plan for the future, cause at this rate, the Hall Of Fame is getting further from your reach.




Since: Apr 22, 2008
Posted on: April 22, 2008 9:47 pm
 

Typical Bengals

Why dont you morons just bite the bullet and trade him?  You guys are so used to losing that its clouding your judgement.  Hmmmm...a first this year and high pick next year for a 29 year old receiver who doesnt want to be there and will ruin your season.  If your owner or overrated head coach had a clue they would say "ya know this could give us a lot of options" intead they are so stupid and stubborn that theyll cost your franchise a lot of promise.  Typical from a team that never wins anything.  Take note :TO screwed the Eagles up and Chad is just as bad.  And the Eagles are much more successful and an overall better franchise than you.  Enjoy Chads antics because its gonna get worse and it will ruin your season.  Hahahaha "Thats why their the Bengals" as Mort would say. 



Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: April 22, 2008 9:27 pm
 

Earth to Chad: It's not your move

As I understand it, the cap hit comes from prorating his signing bonus and guaranteed portion of his contract. I think that they still take the salary cap hit if he sits, but they don't have to pay him his salary from this year. It may also allow them to waive him next year without taking a cap hit. However, if they waive him, they lose a Pro Bowl receiver and get nothing in return. I'm sure the Bengals are making a statement to the entire team, not just Chad, about who is in charge here now and how they are going to clean up the locker room. I also think Marvin Lewis is reestablishing who's boss before he loses the team again and his job. 8-8 this year and I believe he's gone. I'm sure that the Bengals are counting on Chad backing down and reporting after training camp and after they fine the cr*p out of him. They will negotiate the fine down and count on him to play and be productive. Unfortunately, I think they can also count on him to split the locker room into factions, pointing the finger at the defense and Carson Palmer ala T.O. in Philly. I can understand both sides, but if they trade him before the draft and pick up a couple of decent picks and a decent vet nearing the end of his career, they can really shore up the defense with Thurman coming back and quit playing shootouts. Palmer is good enough to work with any decent receiver, Rudi can run it if they get one more decent lineman, and the defense can be helped anywhere. The Bengals do need to take the locker room back over, but keeping an unhappy Chad is not the way to do it. Unfortunately, Mike Brown still owns the  team and you know he doesn't want to eat that 8 million dollars.



Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: April 22, 2008 9:21 pm
 

Earth to Chad: It's not your move

Sorry, but they DO lose $8 million of cap money if they trade him.  The $8 mil has nothing to do with his salary.  It is what is left of the signing bonus they gave him.  Teams can spread their signing bonus money over a number of years for how it affects the salary cap, instead of losing all that cap money in one year.  Chad already has the $8 million.  He's had it since he signed his last contract.  We aren't talking real money, we are talking how that money affects Cincy's salary cap.  If the NFL count the signing bonus they gave 88 when he signed his last contract, they would have been grossly over the cap and unable to sign draft picks or pick any other players that they did that year.  That is a bad situation for teams, for players, and for the NFL overall, since no team could afford to give out big contracts.  So, the NFL allows teams to spread the cap hit over a number of years, not the actual money, just how it affects the cap.  That is fine unless they get rid of the player before all the money is "spent" in lowering their cap.  They still "owe" the NFL 8 million in cap money for 88's contract.  If they keep him, it's only a couple million a year for the next few years.  If they get rid of him, they lose that cap room right now.  And another team can not "pay" for any other teams cap debt.  The salary cap is so teams can't spend more than each other, ever.  The NFL does allow team to "borrow" against future cap money to sign players to big salaries, but in competitive fairness, it has to all balance out for each team.  That happens over time, or when they get rid of the player they owe cap money for.  There is no going over the cap like in baseball.  I hope I've explained fully enough without over explaining. 



Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: April 22, 2008 8:30 pm
 

Earth to Chad: It's not your move

let chad johnson be a dumbass and stubborn and not play football. if he doesn't play he'll get fined. he'll be known as a CRY BABY for the rest of career. I think ocho never grew up and is detrimental . He needs to do HIS JOB




Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: April 22, 2008 6:23 pm
 

Earth to Chad: It's not your move

They do not take a cap hit for the full $8 Million if they trade him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The only way that happens is if they trade him and the team that receives him pays him nothing, thus meaning the Bengals still pay his entire contract.  That would essentially be the same as if he was released.  If the team he is traded to picks up his entire contract, plus the bonus money, the Bengals cap hit will be zero.  If he sits out, the Bengals don't pay him a nickel and there is truly no cap hit because he's under contract and his salary is figured into the 2008 cap.  They just are without one player and Mike Brown has more money is his own pocket.  The Bengals are not handcuffed by any means.  Chad wants out and the Bengals won't let that dirt bag run the show.  $3 Mil to $8 Mil a year against the salary cap to have that dirt ball sit at home and not receive a paycheck wouldn't be a bad deal at all. 



Since: Feb 1, 2008
Posted on: April 22, 2008 6:06 pm
 

Earth to Chad: It's not your move

You are incorrect.  They will also take an $8 million hit even if they trade him.  Release him or trade him, they take the hit.  That is why the Bengals cannot do anything with him.  If he sits, they don't have to pay him, but they don't get that money back for cap room.  I believe the only way the Bengals avoid the cap hit is if Chad gives back $8 million of his signing bonus, but even then, I'm not sure.  Chad will play for the Bengals this year; it's just a question of whether he's going to try.  Since he wants a big contract next time around and loves all the attention, I suspect he'll try.


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