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NFL Tidbits & Rumors - Updated 6/5/09

Posted on: June 5, 2009 1:19 pm
 

Some more NFL Tidbits & Rumors. Enjoy:

 

The surgery Brian Westbrook will undergo Friday morning in Baltimore is a serious procedure, according to a source close to the situation. "I'm just concerned that it is being underplayed," the source said. "It's a lot more than a little spur and it's much more than the knee arthroscopy he had (in February)." Both a team source and Westbrook's agent Todd France downplayed the significance of the surgery, which the team announced late Wednesday night. "It's just some bone spurs," France told ESPN.com Wednesday.

 

The Falcons indicated several weeks ago that Michael Vick was not in their plans for this or any other season. So why is Vick still on the roster? Call it the "never-say-never" factor. Sources familiar with the Falcons situation tell me that the team is pretty much resigned to the idea that they will release Vick -- probably late in training camp -- once his status is decided by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. The never-say-never part comes in with other teams: The Falcons feel that it's worth it to hang onto Vick on the possibility that a team might be willing to fork over a draft pick in a trade. The Falcons got a tepid response from teams when they held discussions at the Scouting Combine in February, but felt it was worth a shot to see if any further interest would be generated over the summer. Bottom line: If no trade partner can be found before the start of the regular season, the Falcons will release Vick sometime before the opener.

 

Safety LaRon Landry is now the only Redskin who is unaccounted for during this round of offseason workouts. Linebacker London Fletcher and fullback Mike Sellers - who declined comment as they left the field today - both returned to work out earlier this week after missing Monday and Tuesday. Landry, though, is not here, and Jim Zorn said he has not been able to reach the third-year player by either telephone or text message.

 

The giddy reaction in Chicago over the Bears' acquisition of Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler is not shared by former Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy. "[The Bears] took a risk [trading for Cutler]. I think they took that risk specifically with beating the Green Bay Packers in mind," Dungy said Wednesday. "I really think Chicago gave up a lot to get a quarterback who they believe is going to be the final piece of the puzzle. But I am not sure he has won enough to merit that yet."

 

It appears that Donovan McNabb's decade-long run as Eagles' starting quarterback is about to extend at least two more years. Citing an anonymous league source, Comcast SportsNet reported that the team and its 32-year-old franchise quarterback are on the verge of agreeing to a restructured deal. Talks initially centered on an extension have shifted to re-working McNabb's current contract to guarantee the roughly $19 million he's slated to earn in the next two seasons, the report said.

 

Rex Ryan already has predicted the Jets will win a Super Bowl in the next three years and yesterday on the radio declared, "I didn't come here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings."

 

During an interview with a Baltimore television station, Vince Young made it clear it's time for him to play football or go elsewhere. "He was just voicing his opinion about competing for a starting job," his agent, Major Adams, said Wednesday, adding that Young was surprised by the magnitude of the controversy. But make no mistake, Young isn't satisfied with the role of backup to 16-year veteran Kerry Collins, who assumed the starting job midway through the 2008 season opener and led the Titans to a league-best 13-3 record. But after an offseason when Young appeared to be largely toeing the company line, working hard and saying the right things, the interview at a youth football camp offered the first signs of a lifelong football star becoming frustrated with an unfamiliar supporting role.

 

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Since: Apr 22, 2008
Posted on: June 6, 2009 1:54 pm
 

NFL Tidbits & Rumors - Updated 6/5/09

During an interview with a Baltimore television station,  made it clear it's time for him to play football or go elsewhere. "He was just voicing his opinion about competing for a starting job," his agent, Major Adams, said Wednesday, adding that Young was surprised by the magnitude of the controversy. But make no mistake, Young isn't satisfied with the role of backup to 16-year veteran , who assumed the starting job midway through the 2008 season opener and led the  to a league-best 13-3 record. But after an offseason when Young appeared to be largely toeing the company line, working hard and saying the right things, the interview at a youth football camp offered the first signs of a lifelong football star becoming frustrated with an unfamiliar supporting role.
You have to think that someone drafted as high up as Young would be starting. Agreed he did start his first season and part of his second but he left the game because he was unhealthy and now he doesn't have a spot anymore. I agree with what hes saying and I wouldn't want to be a part of an organization that drops me for a QB that is old enough to be my grandparent and isn't even that good. He's wasting his career sitting on the bench. 



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: June 6, 2009 9:44 am
 

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thanks Buff...i was against Bowlen firing Shanahan...i could understand why he did it, but i was against it...Bowlen himself even said at the news conference announcing the firing that it might be something that he'd regret...all that aside, OK, you need a new head coach, so why do you bring in an offensive guy who runs a different system to THIS team?  the offense (except for the injuries at RB) was the only part of this team that was any good last year...he should've hired the Vikings' Leslie Frazier, Tony Spagnuolo, or my personal first choice, Rex Ryan...Rex would've focused on the defense, which is the problem area, and while he wouoldn't have been able to magically rebuild them in just a year or two, they would've brought a swagger, attitude, whatever you want to call it, to the field every game...i saw it here with his father when Buddy Ryan ran the Eagles, and you can see it in Rex's press conferences now...

there's really been nothing that this team has done since the end of the season that makes sense to me...



Since: Feb 17, 2009
Posted on: June 6, 2009 7:41 am
 

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Good stuff Saggy!  Denver Broncos are a very confusing team.  You do have an ex-Boilermaker at QB, but I see a signaficant drop off offensively at least until McDaniels gets his system in place.  I think getting Cassell would have excelerated the system being learned and that was why McDaniels wanted him.  Lets face it Cassell hasn't done anything spectacular over the course of time either.  I don't want to bang on the guy, but I think there was too much fuss over him.  I will agree that Denver's defense was poor last season and unfortunately, I do see a lot of improvement.  Some, but they need more.  The added a lot of years.  I remember the Bronco fans going nuts about the postings during the free agent signings then the air was let out of the ballon after the Cutler trade.  For the record I don't think I would have made the Cutler trade, even for 2 number 1's.  I think the Bears gave a lot up, but I think Denver took a huge step backwards.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: June 5, 2009 8:58 pm
 

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i understand wins is the bottom line...what im saying is that (with the exception of American League baseball) football is the only sport where a player doesn't have the opportunity to contribute on both offense and defense...if the Broncos had had an average defense last year, not good, just middle-of-the-road AVERAGE defense, they win 11 or 12 games and run away with the divison...my point is that Cutler did his job on the offense, but the defense is what killed the team...Cutler's career record when the defense gives up 21 or fewer points (which would put them right in the middle of the NFL last year) is 13-1...when they give up less than 30, he's 14-7...he's 3-13 when they give up more than 30...let's see how some "winning" QBs fared when their defenses where that bad:

Tom Brady  5-8
Peyton Manning   9-25
Ben Roethlisberger   2-10
Joe Montana   6-17
Brett Favre   8-42
Donovan McNabb   3-16
John Elway   7-41
Eli Manning   1-16

and Matt Cassell, the guy McDaniels wanted to trade for Cutler:  0-4

those are some pretty good QBs who come up small when their defense gives the game away...and while i loved watching Jim McMahon, let's face it, the Bears won that Super Bowl because they had one of the most dominating defenses in history, as well as one of the greatest RBs of all-time in Walter Payton, so McMahon didn't need to do much...

the Saints didn't have to give up anything except cash to acquire Brees as he was a free agent who left San Diego because the contract they offered him was heavy in incetnives based on his playing time, and since he was coming off a shoulder injury and they had Philip Rivers waiting in the wings, he chose to leave...

and while the Bears might have given up a lot for Cutler, the Broncos aren't really instilling much confidence in me with how they're using the picks...they used the first round pick this year to draft Robert Ayers, who i think could be a good player, but they traded the 3rd rounder away...and because they have the Bears' 1st rounder next year, they traded away their own first rounder (which in all likelihood will be a Top-10 pick) for a 2nd round pick this year, which makes NO sense...

i definitely agree with you that Cutler has a lot to improve on--remember, he's only going into his 4th season, he (obviously) needs to mature some more, as well as refine his game...while he had a lot of better supporting players around him in Denver, the guys he has around him now will put up better numbers--i'm not saying great numbers, but better--than they would if Kyle Orton was throwing them the ball...



Since: Feb 17, 2009
Posted on: June 5, 2009 7:37 pm
 

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Wins is the bottom line.  I'm also a huge Dree Brees fan since college, but he didn't cost New Orleans what Cutler cost the Bears.  The point is that Cutler still has a lot to improve upon let alone being worth what the Bears sent to Denver.  You still have to look at wins.  To refer to another Bears QB that didn't have that good of numbers, but is remember as being a top QB is Jim McMahon.  He won in college and he won the Super Bowl at the Pro level.  Cutler's got way better stats and is a much better passer, but hasn't proved he can win.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: June 5, 2009 6:54 pm
 

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 The guys (Jay Cutler) got a great arm, but really hasn't won (college or Pro).well, he went to college at Vanderbilt, a school that's not exactly a football powerhouse, playing in a conference full of them...and the Broncos' offense last year was 2nd in the league in total offense, but the defense--which Cutler had absolutely NOTHING to do with--was 29th (out of 32 teams) in total defense, and gave up an average of 28 PPG...and that 2nd in the NFL ranking in offense was done despite a revolving door at running back due to injury--which definitely hurt them in the red zone...so how is it Jay Cutler's fault that the team didn't win?

if you're going to go by those standards, what about Drew Brees?  ive been a fan of his since he was at Purdue, i think he's a GREAT QB, but what has he won?  Purdue, while being competitive at times, isn't exactly a powerhouse football program...and he's won ONE playoff game in the NFL...the Saints had the only offense in the league that outranked the Broncos last year, but due to the Saints having a defense almost as bad as the Broncos, both teams finished with 8-8 records...

seriously, tracking QBs wins has got to be one of the stupidest ways to judge how good a QB is...while there's no doubt that they should get extra scrutiny as the focal point of the offense, there's only so much they can do on the offense by themselves...a lot depends on the talent around them too...and hanging a team's victory or loss on them when they have absolutely NOTHING to do with how the defense plays just doesn't make sense...

sorry, just tired of hearing that...i liked the rest of your post, though...




Since: Feb 17, 2009
Posted on: June 5, 2009 3:12 pm
 

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The giddy reaction in Chicago over the ' acquisition of Pro Bowl quarterback is not shared by former Indianapolis coach Tony Dungy. "[The Bears] took a risk [trading for Cutler]. I think they took that risk specifically with beating the Green Bay in mind," Dungy said Wednesday. "I really think Chicago gave up a lot to get a quarterback who they believe is going to be the final piece of the puzzle. But I am not sure he has won enough to merit that yet." The guys got a great arm, but really hasn't won (college or Pro).  He was getting too much credit for the early success the Broncos.  Now the Bears needed a QB, but Dungy is right in that they over spent for a great arm that hasn't shown he knows how to win.  Besides...who's he going to throw to.  Again, playing in Chicago you need a strong armed QB, but I think the Bears sold their sole on this one!

During an interview with a Baltimore television station, made it clear it's time for him to play football or go elsewhere. "He was just voicing his opinion about competing for a starting job," his agent, Major Adams, said Wednesday, adding that Young was surprised by the magnitude of the controversy. But make no mistake, Young isn't satisfied with the role of backup to 16-year veteran , who assumed the starting job midway through the 2008 season opener and led the to a league-best 13-3 record. But after an offseason when Young appeared to be largely toeing the company line, working hard and saying the right things, the interview at a youth football camp offered the first signs of a lifelong football star becoming frustrated with an unfamiliar supporting role. Here's a guy who's a great athlete that is a below average QB.  Kerry Collins showed that he can win (again) and deserves to be the starter.  Vince Young hasn't shown the skill to be a NFL QB and he has also shown that he doesn't have the mental toughness.  Not saying these things can't be developed (although to have mental toughness you have to show you have the mental capacity), but until he developes on both accounts, the Titans are right in naming Kerry Collins their starter at this point.

Note to self on Brian Westbrook...don't take him this year in your fantasy league!!!  I've taken him the past three years and he's awesome...when PLAYING!  This game time decision with him kills me.



Since: Jun 5, 2009
Posted on: June 5, 2009 3:01 pm
 

NFL Tidbits & Rumors - Updated 6/5/09

During an interview with a Baltimore television station, made it clear it's time for him to play football or go elsewhere. "He was just voicing his opinion about competing for a starting job," his agent, Major Adams, said Wednesday, adding that Young was surprised by the magnitude of the controversy. But make no mistake, Young isn't satisfied with the role of backup to 16-year veteran , who assumed the starting job midway through the 2008 season opener and led the to a league-best 13-3 record. But after an offseason when Young appeared to be largely toeing the company line, working hard and saying the right things, the interview at a youth football camp offered the first signs of a lifelong football star becoming frustrated with an unfamiliar supporting role.
Can't blame Young for being frustrated.  He's being forced to play second fiddle to a 40 year-old QB who's been average, at best, throughout his career; while a terrible QB like JaMarcus Russell is starting. 


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