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Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

Posted on: September 24, 2008 6:46 pm
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Alright so we all know the debate about the strengths of the Division 1 conferences, everybody thinks their conference is #1 or #2.

So LAwish (West Coast) and I (East Coast) decided to put the question to bed...

but, there was a problem and a pretty obvious one. Since we're both coastal, and focus on certain confernces we lack some knowledge about the middle of the country. So this time around I hired some "experts" to help us out with thier respective conferences.

wizardKing (Big 10)
carolina8800 (Big East)
mmaggettepack (ACC)
cubansajoke (Big 12)

If you have a problem with the way the teams in these conferences are ranked, take it up with them first, lol

Alright so we went through the 6 major conferences, and for the heck of it, threw in the top 2 mid-major conferences: the WAC, and the Mountain West Conference. We put each team in one of these 5 categories.

                                      (you may want to skip down to the conference rankings if you don't care how it was done)

5 Categories:

Big Boys- which I defined as National Title Contenders and teams that will not fall out of the top 10

Solid teams- which are teams that will likely not drop out of the rankings

Decent teams- which are teams that could get into the rankings at the back end or stay just outside the rankings

Bad teams- teams that likely aren't thinking about the rankings but may get to 6 wins to be bowl eligible

JV- teams that aren't thinking bowl game at all, 3 wins would be great

We each did our lists individually so that we didn't influence each other.

When we did our lists I realized that we would disagree about some teams so for scoring purposes 4 sub-categories were composed.

Sub-Categories:

Studs- teams that fall between Big boy's and solid teams

Good teams- teams that fall between Solid and Average teams

Mediocre teams- teams that fall between average and bad

Garbage- teams that fall between bad and JV

Now, this time around with more participants, teams would also fall between the sub-categories but so as not to create too many categories I'll have 2-3 tiers in each category below.
Here is how the teams came out:

Team Rankings:

Big Boys: USC (west), Missouri, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, LSU

Studs: Tier 1: Texas Tier 2: BYU

Solid: Tier 1: Auburn, Alabama Tier 2: Wake Forest, USF, Wisconsin, Penn St. Tier 3: Clemson, Virginia tech, Kansas, Utah, TCU

Good: Tier 1: Ohio St. Tier 2: Texas Tech, Vanderbilt Tier 3: UConn, Fresno St., Boise St., Illinois

Decent: Tier 1: Georgia Tech, Michigan St. Tier 2: Maryland, Oregon, Arizona St., Cal, Purdue, Colorado, UNLV

Mediocre: Tier 1: Florida St., North Carolina, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia Tier 2: Oklahoma St., Nebraska, Kentucky Tier 3: Cincinnati, Arizona, Nevada, Minnesotta, Northwestern, Air Force

Bad: Tier 1: USC (east), Ole Miss, Baylor Tier 2: Boston College, Iowa Tier 3: NC State, Pitt, Oregon St., UCLA, New Mexico St., San Jose St., Kansas St., Tennessee

Garbage:
Tier 1: Miss. St. Tier 2: Stanford, Louisiana Tech, Indiana, Wyoming, Colorado St., New Mexico

JV: Tier 1: Arkansas, Texas A&M Tier 2: Virginia, Rutgers, Michigan Tier 3: Duke, Syracuse, Washington, Washington St., Hawaii, Idaho, Utah St., Iowa St., San Diego St.

I graded the teams on a 5 points scale with Big Boys getting 5. The seperate tiers in each category recieved different amounts of points as well. Studs recieved 4.5 - 4.9 points, solid teams recieved 4 - 4.49 points and so on, down the line
Here's how the conferences came out:

Conference rankings

1. SEC           3.30916  (down)
2. Big 12         3.1133   (up)
3. Big 10         2.9090   (no change)
4. ACC            2.77      (up)
5. MWC          2.611     (down)
6. Big East      2.5        (down)
7. Pac 10        2.4        (down)
8. WAC          2            (down)

(Previous)
1. SEC      3.4583333
2. Pac-10   3
3. Big 12    2.9166667
4. Big 10    2.9090909
5. Big East 2.8125
6. ACC       2.6666667
   MWC      2.6666667
8. WAC      2.3333333
9. C-USA    2.25

So the SEC is still the top league, just ahead of the Big 12, then the Big 10, meanwhile the Pac 10 has slipped from 2nd to 7th. Wow

Comments people?
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Since: Jan 24, 2008
Posted on: October 1, 2008 1:08 pm
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

lol, yeah i redo them every wednesday around 6



Since: Nov 15, 2007
Posted on: October 1, 2008 8:23 am
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

Probably time to redo these rankings...



Since: Jan 24, 2008
Posted on: September 27, 2008 1:26 am
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

Upset watch time!

a combo of games I think could be upsets and games where the public has put a team on upset watch

#20 Clemson, on upset watch against Maryland, although I like MD, I think Clemson has had enough time to right the ship, Clemson wins 38-20

#25Fresno St. vs. UCLA: UCLA is a team where you never know which team is going to show up, but the mid-majors never sleep on an OOC opponent, Fresno takes care of buisness

#14 Ohio St. vs. Minnesota: alright here's my first upset pick, this is Ohio State's last chance to prove they haven't completely blown up, I don't think they do it, and I don't know if Beanhead is playing or not though, Ohio St. 27, Gophers 28

Tennessee vs. #15. Auburn: I'm not personally sold on Auburn or LSU quite yet, yes their defenses are stacked but their offenses are wack, Tennessee 31, Auburn 23, mistakes by Auburn turn the game to the Vols

Georgia-Bama: not an upset watch game but two ranked teams,  I like Georgia to win it

#23 East Carolina vs. Houston, sorry Cinderella, I called your slip last week after how you played against Tulane, Houston may catch you slipping again, 31-38

#24 TCU vs. #2 Oklahoma: Sooners take care of business, too much on the line with the USC loss

#22 Illinois vs. #12 Penn St.: should be a shootout, but the Nittany Lions are confident, Illinois 38 Penn St. 45

oh, and I'm feeling the beavers to bust the Trojans this week, call me crazy!

what?

that game has already been played?

was I right?

haha, I so called that. . .



Since: Jan 24, 2008
Posted on: September 26, 2008 5:00 pm
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

oh yeah, I see a lot of potential changes with the games out there

a bama win over georgia could move them up to the big boy category

a Penn state win over illinois could get them to the stud level

things like that



Since: Feb 18, 2008
Posted on: September 26, 2008 2:54 pm
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

After last night loss to Oregon St. USC no longer deserves "the best team in the contry" title. That belongs to Oklahoma now.

BUT these rankings were done prior to last nights game and i have a feelings a few teams rankings are going to change when we do this again.




Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: September 26, 2008 2:27 pm
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

After your Bears over Eagles pick I got to give this a try.Nix that, I think that was Hawks but makes not matter!



Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: September 26, 2008 1:49 pm
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

 

Alright Coach, I got to give it a shot.  After your Bears over Eagles pick I got to give this a try.

Since USC lost to Oregon State, USC needs to fall a tier.  I am ok with Oregon State moving up BUT then Penn State needs to also go up a tier since they CRUSHED Oregon State who BEAT the "best team in the country"..........right?  No......ok. lol




Since: Jan 24, 2008
Posted on: September 26, 2008 12:44 pm
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

USC is still the best team in the country.  Just because they trip over conference doormats they are not the best?
USC at least drops to the stud category with this loss

Oregon St. was at tier 3 bad, maybe they move up to mediocre, they still have 2 losses

when the other Big Boys lose to teams they should beat, then maybe USC will get back up there



Since: Sep 9, 2008
Posted on: September 26, 2008 11:30 am
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

Last night's game's didn't change USC's position, it only changed Oregon State's.

USC is still the best team in the country.  Just because they trip over conference doormats they are not the best?

They beat everyone out of the conference, and everyone good in the conference.

 




Since: Jan 24, 2008
Posted on: September 26, 2008 7:32 am
 

Ranking the NCAAF Conferences: Part 2

yeah I didn't want to do it without LAwish's votes but I wanted to get it out before last night's games

which, as you see, have changed some team's positioning


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