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Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

Posted on: June 26, 2010 12:54 pm
 
Ok, kmvenne here is my final attempt to shine a bit of light on this issue. In your thread you wanted to compare the top 4 players on both teams that are signed for next season. I think there is no argument that can be made as to the Knicks having a better roster then the Bulls. You can argue that New York is a better and bigger market and you can even use the Michael Jordan's shadow to debate your side but you cannot argue that the Knicks hae a better roster then the Bulls and still be considered sane.

I will make my arguement as simple as I can using one stat. I will compare each teams top 4 players in order and a clear picture should be made. I will simply use the NBA Efficiency Score. Sure the Efficiency score is not full proof but it does give a solid overall value to a player. I will use this seasons regular season stats as the Knicks missed the playoffs again. Ouch!

1. Derrick Rose 18.8(44th) vs Danilo Gallinari 14.6(95th) Winner=Derrick Rose +4.2

2. Joakim Noah 19.1(39th) vs Wilson Chandler 15.2(80th)
Winner=Joakim Noah +3.9

3. Luol Deng 18.0 (52nd) vs Bill Walker 9.5(192nd)
Winner=Luol Deng +8.5

4. Taj Gibson 13.1(123) vs Toney Douglas 8.3(228)
Winner=Taj Gibson +4.8

Total Winner=Bulls at +21.4

There is no argument to be made. The Bulls are clearly the better roster. If LeBron James wants to win Championships then Chicago is the place to go. I would say the Clippers, Heat, and Nets are better then the Knicks at this point if LeBron is looking to win now. The Cavaliers are better as well. I do not want to hear the crappy argument that Walker and Douglas were roleplayers so their stats are not as good as they could/would be. I will counter with "WHY where they roleplayers?". They are both scrubs that is why. If you cannot garner enough playing minutes or stats under Mike D'Antoni then you are a scrub, PERIOD. Gallinari and Chandler are the only two players of any value on the Knicks roster and Rose, Deng, and Noah are better then both of them. All three have been to the playoffs 2 or more times and are focal points of the team.

The bottomline is that the Bulls are a playoff team as is. Infact if they were healthy last season they would have finished the season with close to 50 wins and be in the top 5 in the east. Add LeBron and another close to max player and you have a championship contender. The Bulls also have a defensive minded head coach. Sorry, but run and gun will not win you a ring. No defense will have you out of the playoffs in the first round.

In closing, if LeBron want to win a championship then Chicago is the place to do it. Chicago is also a huge market as well. It may not be quite as big as New York, but when you couple Chicago's market size and roster then you have a no-brainer. A lot of how I view LeBron will be based on were he decide to sign. If he stays in Cleveland then I say the guy is loyal. If he comes to Chicago then I say he really wants to win and is not affraid of the ghost of MJ. If he goes to Miami or Jersey then I say he also wants to win now but also wants to party and have fun in south beach or with a rich Russian and Jay Z. If he goes to the Clippers then he is a brave sole that fears nothing and is willing to take a slight risk(Davis is nearly 300 pounds according to reports and last season #1 draft pick has yet to play). If he goes to the Knicks then he is a fool that is only after making money and wants nothing to do with winning. The Knicks roster is crap and I think LBJ sees that now. If he want to be a legend or a King he needs to win some rings. Even with Chris Bosh and Lebron the Knick are not a contender. They would not be better then the Cavs team he just left.

Nobody knows were he will end up, but we will learn a lot about James as a person by what he decides to do. 
Comments

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: June 29, 2010 4:44 pm
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

Lebron is more interested in making money then winning championships. He has to figure out where he can get to a billion dollars the fastest...



Since: Apr 7, 2009
Posted on: June 29, 2010 4:14 pm
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

Knicks Nation-- forget lebron and bosh, We have an opportunity to do great things like getting tougher defensively adding Brendan heywood as the center moving (ofcourse signing) lee to PF,danilo was second in the league in three's he will be the small forward, joe johnson will be a great shooting guard and the point will be hopefully raymond felton. by not focusing on the league max will allow the knicks to bring in new talent, keep the good and letting go mcgrady,duhan,harrington, bender and earl barron.  jermaine o'neal would be a great addition to the knicks. The knicks need to be tough offensively and defensively we can score but we also cant stop the other team from scoring more. the above mentioned can transform the knicks with a reputaton to match equal to the early 90's teams.



Since: May 17, 2009
Posted on: June 29, 2010 11:27 am
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

Well CLiff, Suddenly it looks to not even be Knicks vs. Bulls... It is now Heat vs. Everyone, Dwade, Lebron James, and Chris Bosh all met in MIAMI Dosn't look good for Bulls and Knicks fans who will most likely be very disappointed this summer... Sorry Cliff...



Since: May 8, 2010
Posted on: June 29, 2010 8:32 am
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

Heres and idea, lets wait and see where he goes.



Since: May 17, 2009
Posted on: June 28, 2010 5:00 pm
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

Nice entry Cliff, you checked in on my blog post so I do the same for you,

Congrats on being 2011 NBA Champions, but remember my Jazz will play you tough to a 7 game series! lol I wish....

Anyway congrats on your new line-up

PG Derrick Rose
SG Luol Deng or whomever the Bulls pick to put there
SF Lebron James
PF Carlos Boozer/ Chris Bosh
C Joakim Noah

Your going to have a fun time watching you team plat this year for sure.



Since: Apr 6, 2010
Posted on: June 28, 2010 4:44 pm
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

LEBRON JAMES IS NOT GOING TO THE KNICKS!!!!!  Even with Bosh, can he win a Championship with them???  The answer is a two letter word that means the opposite of Yes.  We are going to find out in a few days if it's for the chance to win a ring or is it something else.  Bulls=RINGS, everyone else it's ICON status and if I win, that's OK too.




Since: Feb 21, 2010
Posted on: June 28, 2010 4:14 pm
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

He's going to miami with Bosh, it's a no brainer...nuff said



Since: Jun 28, 2010
Posted on: June 28, 2010 3:47 pm
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

you said next year....disregard my response



Since: Apr 9, 2009
Posted on: June 28, 2010 3:45 pm
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

rca888 -
The Knicks have another 11 + million coming off after 2010, which is why I said cap room to address any holes after this upcoming season. That would signe one above average FA, or two or more average FA's.



Since: Jun 28, 2010
Posted on: June 28, 2010 3:33 pm
 

Bulls vs Knicks vs LeBron

hlawyer, the Knicks have about $34 mil in cap space for 2010.  They have about $5 mil more than the Bulls.  You'd have to get a ton of value out of that $5 mil to address the holes on that team.


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