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A trade that could work

Posted on: September 10, 2009 12:41 pm
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 have seen a lot of crazy trades on message boards and it got me thinking about what trades could work. Right away lets rule out Soriano. He's 35 and signed for 5 more years at $17.5. Also he's from Cuba so how old is Soriano really 38, 40, 42? Bradley isn't going anywhere either. Our "young guys" Fox and Hoffpauir are in their late 20s so there won't be much market for them. Zambrano could go but I don't see that happening with our lack of pitching depth. One thing we have to realise that our cupboards are pretty bare. We don;t exactly have a lot of help in the minors. Taking this into account along with our bounty of overpriced players only one trade makes sense to me. One trade gets salary off the board, and will get us a few quality prospects in return. Most of Cubs Nation will hate me like I called him Ray Santo after they read my proposal. Aramis Ramirez. He is due 16.5 million next year and unlike our other guys he actually earns it. He's about to enter the peak of his career and several teams like the Angels still crave Aramis.  I could see us getting 3,4 solid players in exchange for a career .285 hitter with 261 home runs. And he plays pretty good defense on the hot corner. This would also solve the problem of where to put Fox. Yeah it wouldn't be the same but it would be for the greater good of the team. We all need to face that the only way we will get better is through trades. Ricketts will not be spending a lot of money this year. He took out a loan to buy the team. His loan payments are gonna be $20 million a year. Average Cubs profit the last few years is $30 million. I don't see him getting anymore in debt especially with all the dead weight contracts we have already. So trades are the only way we can improve. Th eonly other guy I could see us trading is Ted Lilly. I would hate to do that though since he has been so consistent. It would save us another $10 million though and get us a couple more prospects. We have $118 million commited to only 10 players for next year. So let's shake things up and build for the future. Lets be honest 2010 isn't looking any better. We need changes and younger players. WHat do you guys think is there any other desirable players that other teams would want?
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Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2009 6:28 am
 

A trade that could work

Soriano is already 35 and maybe older?  Holy crap, Bartman (no that's not a typo).  Where has the time gone?



Since: Dec 11, 2007
Posted on: September 11, 2009 1:12 pm
 

A trade that could work

Warning: Temper Tantrum Zambrano does not come with an abdominal excercise equipment. Also has no ability to bend at the stomach.



Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: September 11, 2009 12:17 pm
 

A trade that could work

Nice.  Sold seperately can be "Temper Tantrum Zambrano".



Since: Dec 11, 2007
Posted on: September 11, 2009 11:43 am
 

A trade that could work

I think we should market the "sleeping Lou" action figure. He comes complete with  Yankee prestige and Billy Martin stories



Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: September 11, 2009 11:35 am
 

A trade that could work

I kind of like the idea of Aramis too, but disagree with D. Lee.  Actually, if this team wants to even compete next year I think they would have to keep both.  There's been lots of talk around here about the Cubs finding a way to move both Bradley and Zambrano.  Yes, the only way to do that would be to eat most of those salaries, but with those two you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.  Could you imagine the clubhouse if you traded Lee and Ramirez and kept Bradley and Zambrano?  And you thought this year was a mess.  This offseason will be really interesting.  Next year I don't want to see Bradley, Zambrano, or Lou in a Cubs uniform and I don't think any two of those three can remain on this team.  I think Bradley has to go, so that eliminates one.  Ricketts has to realize the mistake that was made here and just eat his contract.  Now, if Rickttes want to give Lou one more year, that can't be done with Zambrano as his "ace".  And we all know the Yankees or the Red Sox love to overpay and are both in need of SP, so there may be one option, even if it does mean the Cubs once again eating a lot of that waste of a salary.  Both scenarios don't end up with a lot in return for the Cubs, but it's the idea of addition by subtraction, and it allows a young arm to join the team next year to develop and now Fox can possibly move to RF if they want to get him in the lineup.  I agree we are stuck with Soriano in LF for years to come, unless some idiot GM in the AL would take him off the Cubs hands.  But if you were to keep both Ramirez and Lee and just move out Zambrano and Bradley, this still resembles the team that won 97 games last year, with or without Lou sleeping in the duggout.



Since: May 23, 2009
Posted on: September 10, 2009 7:21 pm
 

A trade that could work

Well Lee I ruled out because the Cubs just wouldn't do it.If you're not willing to trade one of your hottest commodities, then you're not willing to benefit the organization in the future. You said it yourself...2010 does not look very promising. Derrek Lee is getting up in years but he's still worth a lot. I see the possibility of dealing him to an AL team in need of a good DH/1B.

Soriano was on the waiver block and nobody even bit.I'd forgotten this. Thanks!

Zambrano is much more tradeable but again who wants to take on a player with over 50 mil on his contract.I was hoping some team in a pennant race like the Cardinals, the Angels, the Phillies, or perhaps even Detroit would want to beef up their rotation or middle relief with someone like Big Z...guess not.

Harden won't be under contract after this season...I threw Harden into the mix because he does have value if he's healthy. I like him and I'd keep him. He may not give you more than 5+ innings on average, but as long as he's healthy, he's an above average pitcher. I'd like to see him offered a 2-year deal with incentives for a 3rd based on innings pitched. If not, maybe give him a shot at closer. With his high strikeout ratio, he may surprise people.

Fukudome would be an interesting trade. I kinda like him though.I like Kosuke, too. Although he's not blossomed into the power-hitting lefty we'd hoped for, he's a patient hitter with excellent defensive ability. But if we're in a rebuilding year and trading him would bring in two or more players, I say do it. The only problem with doing this is that we're already spread thin in the outfield. (good argument for Fox, Fuld, Hoffpauir getting PT???)

Good thought about Marmol though especially since he only makes 300K.I'd hate to lose him because of his potential. I think there are quite a few teams who would jump at the opportunity to get Marmol and, in my opinion, that is another commodity available to bring in a few players.


Well...I tried giving you a bit of reason behind my choices while showing comparison with what you replied. I hope I made sense...LOL!



Since: Dec 11, 2007
Posted on: September 10, 2009 4:07 pm
 

A trade that could work

Well Lee I ruled out because the Cubs just wouldn't do it. And Soriano was on the waiver block and nobody even bit. He makes an obseen amount of money and is too old. Zambrano is much more tradeable but again who wants to take on a player with over 50 mil on his contract. Harden won't be under contract after this season so I eliminated his trade possibility. Fukudome would be an interesting trade. I kinda like him though.  Good htough about Marmol though especially since he only makes 300K.




Since: May 23, 2009
Posted on: September 10, 2009 3:01 pm
 

A trade that could work

...any other desirable players that other teams would want? -- Chi2Az81Other than Aramis Ramirez and Ted Lilly, I feel that a few other organizations would want:

Derrek Lee -- one of the best 1B in the league...would hate to see him go, but you did say yourself we need changes...trading him could bring in quite a few younger players

Rich Harden -- luckily he stayed healthy for the most part this season and that could work to the Cubs benefit with a trade...would hate to see him go, but we can't afford another long-term, high-dollar contract to keep him

Kosuke Fukudome -- one of the best RF in the league with potential as a leadoff hitter...would hate to see him go, but put him on the trading block and see what is offered

John Grabow -- new acquisition, fills much-needed left-handed spot in the bullpen, has performed admirably...would hate to see him go, but put him on the trading block and see what is offered

Carlos Marmol -- he's got tons of potential albeit a propensity for wildness...hate to see him go, but he may be worth more to the Cubs future if he's traded while he's got value

We need changes and younger players. -- Chi2Az81Even though he's older and has had a sub-par year, there may still be a few organizations who would want Alfonso Soriano. Call me stupid, but that's what I think. What would be the trade-off for him? Probably not much other than a younger player or two, but we'd dump his contract and be rid of his lack-luster defense and less than desirable attitude (as of late)...just my opinion.

I feel similarly as you do about Carlos Zambrano. I think the only way he's dealt would be if the Cubs gave up someone else with him in a multiple-player trade. That would make it an expensive deal, so we'd have to get a top-notch player, say...a good 2B/leadoff hitter, a good pitching prospect or two, or even a left-handed power hitter.

I'm not the big stats hound, sportspage or article reader that many people are on this site, nor do I live in Chicago with access to so much more up-to-the-minute information than some of you near Wrigley have. B
ecause of this, some of you may think I'm nuts for making these suggestion. Well, this is a sports blog, message board, chat site, or whatever else you want to call it, so I'm putting this out there to see what you guys think. Criticize, praise, berate, debate, say nothing, call me names...whatever. It's a free world, right?  LOL

Anyway...there it is. Have at it, guys.

PEACE

BP





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