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VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

Posted on: September 1, 2009 3:19 pm
Edited on: September 1, 2009 3:39 pm
 
I will submit a list of songwriters talked about in my last blog to chose from for voting. There are 53 nominations, but anyone is allowed a single write in vote with no questions asked. Please cast ten votes as the votes will be weighted on a ten point system, that is 10 points for first place, 9 points for second, etc. Ballots containing MORE THAN ONE WRITE IN should explain why additional candidates should be considered for submission. You can write in ten songwriters if you want, just explain why on nine of them if you want their votes counted. Please remember that this particular vote is for songwriters who rarely collaborate and are North American, so Canadians and Mexicans are included. If you want information on the nominees, please refer to my previous blog,

THE ART OF GREAT SONGWRITING FORUM, American writers.

http://fansince66.blogs.cbssports.c
om/mcc/blogs/entry/8312922/16388714

Please list the nominee’s name ant not their number and try to list ten from best to worst to receive proper voting credit. Without further elaboration, here are the nominees:
  1.  ALANIS MORISSETTE
  2. BILLY JOEL
  3. BOB DYLAN
  4. BOB GAUDIO
  5. BOB SEGER
  6. BRIAN WILSON
  7. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
  8. BUDDY HOLLY
  9. BURT BACHARACH
  10. CARLY SIMON
  11. CAROLE KING
  12. CHUCK BERRY
  13. DOLLY PARTON
  14. GENE CLARK
  15. GORDON LIGHTFOOT
  16. HANK WILLIAMS, JR
  17. HARRY CHAPIN
  18. JACKSON BROWNE
  19. JAMES TAYLOR
  20. JIM CROCE
  21. JIMI HENRIX
  22. JIMMY BUFFET
  23. JOHN FOGARTY
  24. JOHN HIATT
  25. J0HN MELLENCAMP 
  26. JOHN SEBASTION
  27. JOHNNY CASH
  28. JOHNNY HORTON
  29. JONI MITCHELL
  30. KRIS KRISTOFFERSON
  31. LAURA NYRO
  32. LEON RUSSELL
  33. LOU REED
  34. LUCINDA WILLIAMS
  35. MARVIN GAYE
  36. MELISSA ETHERIDGE
  37. MERLE HAGGARD
  38. NEIL DIAMOND
  39. NEIL YOUNG
  40. OTIS REDDING
  41. PAUL SIMON
  42. PHIL OCHS
  43. RAY CHARLES
  44. ROY ORBISON
  45. SMOKY ROBINSON
  46. STEVIE NICKS
  47. STEVIE WONDER
  48. TOM PETTY
  49. TOM WAITS
  50. TONY JOE WHITE
  51. TOWNES VAN ZANDT
  52. WARREN ZEVON
  53. WILLIE NELSON


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Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: September 17, 2009 7:26 pm
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

Nicely done Fans!
and thank you for your time and effort.

No real surprises with the tabulation. those of us that hang out here on these music threads do tend to gravitate toward the same types of artists.
There are always a couple of dark horses that make a run but those Top 5 overall on your list show up an awful lot in these threads!



Since: Apr 6, 2009
Posted on: September 15, 2009 10:11 pm
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

I think the results are very interesting  and show how great writers stand the test of time.Dylan,Young,Simon,Wilson,Mitchell and Lightfoot all started their careers in the early to mid sixties,45-50 years ago.In an earlier post one of the criteria we discussed that contibuted to a songwriter being great was being timeless.These artists obviously are, to those of us who voted .Great work,an incredable amount of time you put into it,you should be very proud,looking forward to the next phase.



Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: September 15, 2009 9:36 pm
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

VOTING RESULTS FOR AMERICAN SONGWRITERS



Some of these results were as expected, some a little surprising. There were 10 people who chose to vote, every one of which is someone’s whose opinions I hold in the highest  regard. Thank you to each of you who chose to participate.  And now the results.

#1   BOB DYLAN received a total of 76 points from 8 ballots.  7 ballots had him #1, one had him #4 and     two did not include him in their ten best. This is not totally unexpected as most people either like     Dylan as a genius or can’t stand him.

#2   NEIL YOUNG finished with 68 points on 9 ballots. This was much higher than I expected and puts     Mr. Young as our songwriter receiving the most ballots. His voting was very consistent with 4     seconds, 2 thirds,  and 1 each 4th, 6th and 7th.

#3   TOM PETTY
finished with 46 points on 8 ballots. Again I was surprised as much by how many  votes     he received and how consistently high they were. He received 2 thirds, 3 fourths, 3 fifths and 2     sixths.

#4   BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN  received 35 points on 9 ballots. I was not surprised that he was on so many     ballots, tied with Neil Young for most but I was shocked by how far down the list of ten he was on     so many ballots.  He received 1 first, 1 third, 1 fourth, 1 sixth, and 5 tenths.

#5    WARREN ZEVON   received 32 points on 6 ballots. This is no surprise to me at all as either you         get Zevon or you don’t. He received 1 first, 2 thirds, and one each 8th, 9th and 10th.

#6   PAUL SIMON   was a real surprise to me here with 27 points on five ballots. He received a 2nd, a 4th, a     6th, 7th, and 9th.

#7   BRIAN WILSON  was very close to Simon here with 26 points on only 3 ballots, He received  two 2nd
     and one 3rd.  Obviously, those who remember his influence in the mid 60s thought very highly of     him while everyone else tended to dismiss him.

#8   JOHN FOGARTY   received 18 points on three ballots. Two 3rd and one 9th place again show you either     were a real fan of his CCR days or don’t remember his popularity of the times.

#9  BOB SEGER   received 17 points on 3 ballots. One 2nd, one 6th and one 8th again show people from the     70s held him in higher esteem than younger voters.

#10  JONI MITCHELL, TOWNES VAN ZANDT and  GORDON LIGHTFOOT had a three way tie for     tenth with 14 points. Lightfoot was on three ballots while Townes and Joni were on two ballots     each.

For comparison, had we based the standings on votes received with no weighting the standings would have been

#1&2 a tie between Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen
#3 Bob Dylan
#4 Tom Petty
#5 Warren Zevon
#6 Paul Simon
#7 Jackson Browne
# 8-12   five tied with three ballots apiece, Bob Seger, Gene Clark, Brian Wilson, Tom Waits and Gordon Lightfoot.


Each voting method has it’s merits, but I prefer the weighted system for reasons I have explained previously.  Thanks to all of you who took time to participate.





Since: Jul 23, 2007
Posted on: September 9, 2009 2:19 pm
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

Fans, I just re-read your intro to this blog and you clearly specified that ALL North American songwriters were eligible; my apologies for questioning you without doing the research.



Since: Jul 23, 2007
Posted on: September 9, 2009 2:12 pm
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

Thanks for clearing it up for me, Fans!  I'm good with my choices like they are.



Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: September 9, 2009 12:27 pm
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

ROCK, Neil Young is a North American and that is why I included him and Gorden Lightfoot and  Joni Mitchell in my list of nominees. Sorry if I didn't make that clear enough. Thanks for voting and if you would like to replace one of your choices with Neil Young, feel free.

STEELERS, thanks for sliding over here and voting. Always nice to see your posts.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 9, 2009 2:00 am
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

  1. Bob Dylan
  2. Neil Young
  3. John Fogerty
  4. Carol King
  5. Tom Petty
  6. Billy Joel
  7. Ray Charles
  8. Johnny Cash
  9. Warren Zevon
  10. Bruce Springsteen



Great project fansince!!!


I should have nominated Eddie Vedder!




Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 9, 2009 1:54 am
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

He is a Northern American.



Since: Jul 23, 2007
Posted on: September 8, 2009 8:29 pm
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

I took Elvis Costello off my list because he isn't American, but I see several people listing Neil Young.  Are we making him an honorary American for the purposes of this poll?



Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: September 8, 2009 7:05 pm
 

VOTING FOR THE BEST AMERICAN SOLO SONGWRITER

And I would like to thank YOU Fans for doing this for us!

Great reading!


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