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Cincinnati Reds Batting Order

Posted on: June 22, 2008 4:43 pm
I've noticed that our manger, good ol' Dusty Baker uses interesting lineup combinations. To my utter disbelief, I saw 1B Joey Votto in the leadoff spot one game. This is not a jab at Votto, whom I consider one of the team's best hitters, but Votto is not a leadoff hitter. The same goes for Jay Bruce as well. While thinking about that, I decided creating a batting order that would have the best chance of success against an opponent:

1: Brandon Phillips, 2B

2: Jay Bruce, CF

3: Jeff Keppinger, SS

4: Joey Votto, 1B

5: Adam Dunn, LF

6: Edwin Encarnacion, 3B

7: Ken Griffey Jr., RF

8: Pitcher

9: Paul Bako, C

To me, Brandon Phillips should be the leadoff hitter because of his speed and power. Instead of trying to hit for power like what he does in the 4 hole, he could concentrate more about getting on base and setting the table for the rest of the Reds lineup. Bruce would be a good #2 hitter because he doesn't hit into many double plays and would complement the righty Phillips. The #3 hitter should be the best hitter, and I think that is Jeff Keppinger for the Reds. He may not hit for power but he makes solid contact and is not an easy out. I like to think about what would happen with his RBI production if he batted there. Votto needs to get more at bats and he will if he is moved up 2-3 spots in the order. His power capability allows him to drive in the runners who bat in front of him. I like Dunn in the 5th spot because of his power and his OBP, although the strikeouts remain a problem. After having two straight lefties, Encarnacion should be the 6th hitter. Although he doesn't hit for a high BA, he has nice power. I expect that EE will still finish around .275. before it is all said and done. Ken Griffey would be a great 7th hitter and would make a tough out for a player that low in the order. I am a big proponent of having the pitcher bat 8th, so that the catcher Paul Bako could bat 9th.

Is this lineup a good one, or would somebody else like to propose an alternate lineup?

Since: Nov 22, 2006
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Since: Jun 26, 2008
Posted on: June 30, 2008 3:23 pm

Cincinnati Reds Batting Order

The only problem I have about your line-up is batting the pitcher right behind Griffey.  He'ld never get any good pitches to hit with men on base with the pitcher batting right behind him.  I think either of your catchers would draw more respect from opposing pitchers than another pitcher.   

Since: Mar 26, 2008
Posted on: June 23, 2008 3:37 pm

Cincinnati Reds Batting Order

Dusty's lineup is always wack idk why he would have griffey hitting so high and phillips hitting so low

CF- Jay Bruce

2B- Brandon Phillips

SS- Jeff Keppinger

1B- Joey Votto

LF- Adam Dunn

3B- Jerry Hairston Jr.

RF- Ken Griffey Jr.

C- David Ross


Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: June 23, 2008 3:19 pm

Cincinnati Reds Batting Order

I like your lineup a lot better than Busty's dumba$$ lineups!!  I would swap Kepp and Bruce, though.  Kepp has a better shot at moving the runner over for Bruce or Votto to hit him in.  I also like Griffey hitting 7th.  He doesn't hit well enough to hit 3rd anymore.  He really should be traded to let Hopper in the lineup.  Also, with Hairston coming back soon, how about ....

CF - Norris Hopper

3B - Jerry Hairston, Jr.

1B - Joey Votto

LF - Adam Dunn

RF - Jay Bruce

SS - Jeff Keppinger

2B - Brandon Phillips

C - David Ross (till we find something better)

P -


Votto and Bruce hit lefties just fine, so that's my defense of having all the lefties together. 

Since: May 17, 2007
Posted on: June 23, 2008 1:09 am

Cincinnati Reds Batting Order

Understandably, you could not have had this lineup on Saturday since Kepp was not available until then.
So, as long as you have him, you can manipulate your order a little better. Otherwise, you are stuck with Janish.
That screws the pooch.

I vote against the EE spot, for the main reason being that I think he needs to be replaced, period.
Gone, traded, demoted, unhinged.

As for the pitcher in the 8 spot, that might depend on the pitcher who's pitching against our pitcher.
If Bako is our best catcher, then use him. I don't think either he or Ross is worth the lead it would take to sink 'em to the floor of the Pacific Ocean.

In any case, this team needs to get some stability in the batting order. Why it doesn't have that is Busty's insistence on using Patterson. No way can this team manufacture a rally with automatic outs in the lineup.

If you want a similar example of how this happens, look at the cursed 1982 Reds.

Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: June 23, 2008 12:55 am

Cincinnati Reds Batting Order

There is one problem with this lineup: It makes way too much sense, and that's something Busty does not have alot of. So he will never think of this. Now if we had a DECENT manager he might, but we have the WORST manager in the entire game of baseball, so we have no chance. I really think we would at least be 3-4 games ahead of where we are if we had even Jerry Narron as our manager again. He didn't do anything special, but at least he's not Busty.

Since: Mar 26, 2008
Posted on: June 23, 2008 12:10 am

Cincinnati Reds Batting Order

I think that this would be an absolutly great lineup it makes sense and would complement each player to there abilities.

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