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Tigers get Washburn, may not be done

Posted on: July 31, 2009 11:32 am
Edited on: July 31, 2009 12:51 pm
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The Tigers gave their rotation a significant upgrade by adding left-hander Jarrod Washburn from the Mariners today.

Now the question is whether the Tigers will be able to add a hitter, too. According to sources, the team continues to be active in trade talks, looking to improve a lineup that has struggled for much of the season.

In exchange for Washburn, the Tigers sent left-hander Luke French and minor league pitcher Mauricio Robles to the Mariners.

"This is not a blockbuster, but I think it's a great deal," Tigers manager Jim Leyland said. "I think it's going to be good for both teams. I've been telling people how much I like French, and obviously somebody else liked him, too. I've got to give Dave Dombrowski a lot of credit for pulling this off, him and [Mariners general manager] Jack Zduriencik both."

Washburn adds to what was already a strong Tigers rotation, with Justin Verlander and Edwin Jackson, and should give the Tigers a much better chance of holding onto their lead in the American League Central. The Tigers now have three of the top seven pitchers in the AL ERA race, with Jackson second at 2.59, Washburn third at 2.64 and Verlander seventh at 3.16.

Washburn will make his Tigers debut Tuesday night against the Orioles.

The Tigers have struggled scoring runs, but with Carlos Guillen coming off the disabled list, and with continuing questions about the back end of their rotation, club officials decided to make a starting pitcher a priority. Washburn, eligible for free agency at the end of this season, was an obvious target.

"He's pitching the best he has pitched in 6-7 years," said a scout from another team who saw Washburn this week. "The Tigers did well to get him."

The Yankees also showed interest in Washburn. In conversations with other teams, though, Yanks general manager Brian Cashman has been very reluctant to part with anyone on his major-league roster.

French has started five games for the Tigers this year. Including two relief appearances, he is 1-2 with a 3.38 ERA. Robles is a Class A pitcher. Neither was ranked by Baseball America among the Tigers' top 10 prospects last winter.

The 34-year-old Washburn has blossomed this year under the tutelage of Mariners pitching coach Rick Adair (a former Tiger pitching coach). Earlier this season, Adair called Washburn "the best veteran I've ever been around. The ultimate team player."




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Since: Jun 25, 2009
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Sorry, forgot the year. Petitte and Moyer were class A free agents going into 2008-2009. So look at their 2 previous years.... sorry again.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 3, 2009 2:03 pm
 

Tigers get Washburn, may not be done

I heard he was more of a Class B free agent so, only one draft pick for him. We're not talking Cliff Lee or Halladay here

Obviously I'm not sure yet, but it's very likely Washburn will be a class a free agent.  Elias has their formula and that's who they use. They go by the last 2 seasons combined average stats (not sure exactly which stats, how they weigh them, etc)  . But if you look at Washburns stats from last year to this year and average them out, he's pretty good.  Lots of stats count. How much weight is there on wins that would hurt him? I don't know. But the era average if he continues this the rest of the year will be great, and so is his innings pitched, total starts , etc.

Let me put it this way. Going into Andy Petitte and Jamie Moyer were type A free agents. Go look at their stats, you wouldn't be so sure that's what they would be classified.. but they were.  You only have to be in the top 30 percent of players at your position to qualify for class A....  If Washburn keeps this up, he might be in that class. All Detroit has to do is offer him arbitration and if he rejects it, it's done.

Here's another rule though. Picks 1-15 are "protected". So if a team that has a pick in the top 15 signs him, they don't lose their 1st round pick, they loses their 2nd round pick instead. Either way from what I read there is another supplementary pick in between rounds, or that "sandwich" pick they keep referring to.

There are about 150 or so starting pitchers in each league. A class A free agent basically has to make the top 40-45 or be able to say he would be the 2nd starter when you average it out. This year Washburn could be top starter on most teams... so the average may work out for the Tigers.

If that's the case, the trade is even better for the Tigers then I originally thought. Detroit offers him arbitration and if he stays, we have a really solid if not great top 3... one of the best top 3 in baseball for sure.. certainly in the top third of both leagues combined.  If he doesn't stay and leaves, we are guaranteed a couple very good selections.... especially if they get something from 16-30... that's damn good in baseball. We got Porcello in that range and although he's tiring out in his first season, he'll be a good starter for a long long time.


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