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Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

Posted on: September 17, 2009 6:09 pm
 
BOSTON -- The Angels were upset with the umpiring in their 9-8 loss to the Red Sox Wednesday night.

The umpires were upset with the Angels, too, or at least with the Angels coaches.

Rick Reed said Thursday that he has sent a report to major-league baseball about the way several memebers of the Angels coaching staff confronted him and his crew on their way off the field. Reed called the actions of the coaches, who he didn't identify, "unprofessional and unbecoming of a professional team."

The Red Sox won the game with two runs in the bottom of the ninth, with the tying run scoring on a controversial bases-loaded walk to Nick Green. The Angels believed they had Green struck out twice, once on a check-swing (first-base umpire Jeff Kellogg said no swing) and the second time on a 3-2 pitch that Reed ruled low.

The umpires share the tunnel with the visiting team at Fenway Park, and several Angels coaches were seen yelling at the umpires as they came off the field. Pitching coach Mike Butcher and first-base coach Alfredo Griffin seemed to be the most vocal.

Reed said that manager Mike Scioscia at first tried to quiet his coaches, but also said Scioscia later "made a comment that incited the situation."

Scioscia and some Angels players made comments about the umpiring after the game, with Scioscia asking, "What was the count, 3-4 to Green?"

Reed said he has seen the pitch on television replay, and said he can't be sure he got the call right. He said that he was influenced in part by the action of catcher Mike Napoli, who pulled his glove up to frame the pitch.

"It could have been a strike," Reed said. "It could well have been a strike."

Reed is a 28-year veteran. He recently returned to work after suffering a stroke and missing 16 months.
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Since: Apr 10, 2007
Posted on: September 18, 2009 5:58 pm
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

I don't have an opinion, but when you say "the one with the glasses", you don't come off as someone who knows enough to comment.



Since: Apr 20, 2009
Posted on: September 18, 2009 10:43 am
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'


Reed said he has seen the pitch on television replay, and said he can't be sure he got the call right.
So then he went back in the clubhouse, watched the pitch over and over again on television replay ...


"It could have been a strike," Reed said. "It could well have been a strike."

... and still doesn't know if it's a strike.


He said that he was influenced in part by the action of catcher , who pulled his glove up to frame the pitch.
You are a 28 year veteran, and in crucial penant race game situations, you are being influenced by little BS catcher tricks?


I can deal with blown calls every once in a while, but the recent explanations by these umpires after blowing calls, leaves me questioning the qualifications of the MLB to hire qualified umpires. 

/Shameful.



Since: Nov 17, 2006
Posted on: September 18, 2009 10:36 am
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

I agree that there should be some check on arbitrary calling of balls and strikes, but I wouldn't go as far as your suggestion.  On ball and strike calls, fourth balls and third strikes should be subject to appeal.  Each manager would have three appeals per game, but if all three of his appeals resulted in the call being overturned, he would get an additional appeal.  Appeal would be to the "K-Zone" radar device.  If, in a game, six of an umpire's calls were overturned, he would be required to attend instruction on the calling of balls and strikes.  If that happened three times in a year with the same umpire, he would not be an umpire the following year. 

The umpires blow a few calls on the bases, but only a very few.  I don't see any particular reason to do anything there.  But I do see umpires who have called many pitches wrong in a game.  In the game that caused the controversy, it appears Mike Scioscia was right about that pitch.  But the Angels also got some calls that looked dead wrong as well.  Casey Kotchman was called out twice on questionable pitches. 



Since: Oct 7, 2008
Posted on: September 18, 2009 10:22 am
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

It is the umpires who are "unprofessional". How about getting a few close calls right. I could be polite and say the umpires are having a tough year or be honest and say they stink! The number of blatantly blown calls is somewhere near 10 to the 5th power but they hide in their dressing room without ever offering to be questioned by the media. As a lifelong Red Sox fan i was obviously pleased by the outcome of Wednesday's game but I chuckled at the thought of that outcome determining game 5 of the ALDS. The Angels fans would have been apoplectic, and with good reason. Just last night I watched a Braves runner called out at the plate when the fielder's glove and ball were a foot away from him as he touched the plate and the umpire was in great position and I recall the umpire's response to Derek Jeter earlier in the year when Jeter, obviously safe, said to the clown, "He never tagged me." and the umpire responded "He doesn't have to." The umpires must show a lot more competence before throwing stones at players and managers legitimately complain.



Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: September 18, 2009 7:50 am
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

There is no way to proper handle it.  Speak out against the umpires and you get fined.  There is never allowed to be any queastioning of officiating in any sport.  What's he supposed to say?  "I'm sorry sir but I strongly disagree with you and your crew's efforts in this inning." 



Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: September 18, 2009 7:02 am
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

Regardless whether the umpire was right or wrong, it's over.  We all know that ball 4 should've been a strike.  The Angels coaching staff DID act unprofessional leaving the field after the game.  There are other ways to handle that situation.  But they chose to do it on camera so I dont blame the umpires for calling out the coaching staff.  Mike Butcher runs his mouth alot.  And always has a stupid smerk on his face.  The kind you want to cross out with a pencil until the page is ripped through.  He's a jerk.  I know how important every game is right now, especially head to head with a playoff rival.  But it's time to stop "crying" and move on.  Also, Fuentes is an idiot for saying the umpires are afraid to call anything against the Red SOx in Fenway.  To me, that was disrespectful .  The Red Sox deserve the credit that they are great at Fenway.



Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: September 18, 2009 1:43 am
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

btw...i was referring to what  said...



Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: September 18, 2009 1:41 am
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

dude...i couldnt agree with you more. i cant stand umpires...



Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: September 18, 2009 12:50 am
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

careful what you wish foe.....robots will be playing before ya know it



Since: Oct 7, 2008
Posted on: September 18, 2009 12:42 am
 

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

All this talk about "If the Angels had done this or that earlier in the game the blown calls would not have made a difference" is utter crap.  If any team had played a perfect game then no umpire's call would make difference because they'd be so far ahead that it would matter.  But baseball is a game where both teams score, make errors, make great plays and bad ones.  All of that goes into the final score.  That final score should be the result of the game played by the players.  A bad call or two bad calls that permit a game to be prolonged when it should have been over is not in any way excused by the fact that the team that got jobbed made earlier mistakes.  Boston made earlier mistakes too.  If they ever are the victims of a blown call I'll make the same ridiculous argument to the BoSox fans whose team got screwed.


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