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Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

Posted on: September 17, 2009 6:09 pm
BOSTON -- The Angels were upset with the umpiring in their 9-8 loss to the Red Sox Wednesday night.

The umpires were upset with the Angels, too, or at least with the Angels coaches.

Rick Reed said Thursday that he has sent a report to major-league baseball about the way several memebers of the Angels coaching staff confronted him and his crew on their way off the field. Reed called the actions of the coaches, who he didn't identify, "unprofessional and unbecoming of a professional team."

The Red Sox won the game with two runs in the bottom of the ninth, with the tying run scoring on a controversial bases-loaded walk to Nick Green. The Angels believed they had Green struck out twice, once on a check-swing (first-base umpire Jeff Kellogg said no swing) and the second time on a 3-2 pitch that Reed ruled low.

The umpires share the tunnel with the visiting team at Fenway Park, and several Angels coaches were seen yelling at the umpires as they came off the field. Pitching coach Mike Butcher and first-base coach Alfredo Griffin seemed to be the most vocal.

Reed said that manager Mike Scioscia at first tried to quiet his coaches, but also said Scioscia later "made a comment that incited the situation."

Scioscia and some Angels players made comments about the umpiring after the game, with Scioscia asking, "What was the count, 3-4 to Green?"

Reed said he has seen the pitch on television replay, and said he can't be sure he got the call right. He said that he was influenced in part by the action of catcher Mike Napoli, who pulled his glove up to frame the pitch.

"It could have been a strike," Reed said. "It could well have been a strike."

Reed is a 28-year veteran. He recently returned to work after suffering a stroke and missing 16 months.
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Since: Feb 3, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2009 10:51 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

Reading what you wrote makes me believe you are not thinking about the integrity of the game.  Computer?  Reviews?  Tie to the fielder?  Ties don't happen.  Split decisions are made within a fraction of a second.  Umpires don't have time to calculate who what where when and why.  They watch the ball, see how a play is going to develop, react to players making plays, and set themselves into the best position to make the correct call.  (And if you don't think they talk about positioning, game control, strike zones before and after games you don't thouroughly think about baseball).  As a fan watching the game, when a ball is hit, you probably watch the ball.  You are missing the game if you do.  Watch the infield players and umpires set up for possible plays.  Learn how they work the field.  And if you think umpiring is easy or they just work 3 hours a night then go home-  try it sometime. I bet you wouldn't nor couldn't last three hours a night 162 games.  Not many can, which is why most Major League Umpires deserve their job.  They work hard, they understand their roll within the lines and outside the lines.  The umpire is integrity within baseball.  If you think players are, your a rat too.   

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2009 10:10 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

Your position is absolutely wrong. I am not a fan of either team but the Angels were at the wrong end of too may calls last night. If you are going to throw a game at least not be so obvious about it. That game was going to be the Redsox unless it was a shutout. The biased officiating in all sports is horrible. That strike was so obvious that my 10 year old complained. I am furious and I am not even close to an Angels fan. By the way I am not a Redsox hater either.

Since: Sep 7, 2008
Posted on: September 17, 2009 9:39 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

It's part of the game... get over it.  If we want precision, let's just play the games on paper and percentages and statistical probabilities win... game over.  As a manager and player... get over it.  One call doesn't determine the outcome.  There were 10 players left on base in scoring position... why didn't you get them in?  Let's focus on what we can adjust, not on someone else.

Since: Sep 29, 2007
Posted on: September 17, 2009 9:38 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

Umpires call the check swing regularly, it ended a 1 run phillies game, and the swing was as bad as last night, Ump who had a stroke, and is in a game that needs the utmost concentration, recovered or not, you do not fully recover from a stroke, thats just a fact, then admits he may have gotten the call wrong,

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2009 9:18 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

Here's the deal, did Green swing? I agree with a previous post that said it's a 50/50 call. Was ball 4 really strike 3? Yes. Even the NESN Amica strike zone agreed. However what is being lost in this whole thing...Bay pops out, J.D. Drew flies out...two outs....what closer loads the bases on the road, with 2 outs...he DID walk Ortiz after out #2, and then TWO infield singles back to back...lets be honest, Fuentes wasn't wild but he was sloppy. It's not surprising he didn't get a borderline call. I agree, as a Red Sox fan, that it was botched, but it is a game of human error. It has always been a game where umps will get calls wrong, and NO it should not be electronically called and hampered with replay. If a bad call goes your team's way you don't complain, but when a bad call doesn't hardly any fan cries out injustice. Bad calls are a part of the game, but think about how many balls and strikes are called correctly in a game. Lastly Rivera choked and could have come up with A-Gon's bloop single. A bad call may be disheartening but you play to win the game, and when you're not coming up with such a ball in left field in Fenway park...a place where you not only can, but should play pretty shallow, then you deserve to cost your team the game.

Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: September 17, 2009 9:01 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

The Angels got screwed at the end of the game, so I understand their anger.  Green swung (he even looked angry at himself for swinging) and there were a couple badly botched pitches that should have been strikes. 

And I agree with most posters, the umps were intinimidated by the fans. 

Since: Nov 25, 2008
Posted on: September 17, 2009 8:09 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

  The umpires are intimidated by the crowd at Fenway and are scared to call close pitches in favor of the visiting team.  If anyone is "unprofessional" it is the crew of umpires.  The Indians got shafted in 2007 in a simailar manner.  Sebathia's strike zone was about six inches wide.  If I was a Red Sox fan, I wouldn't be crowing about the Angel win last night.  You really lost the game!

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2009 8:09 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

The coaches in the dugout, especially the one with the glasses, didn't help the situation with their incessant whining. The check swing was borderline,but not flagrant. The low strike was also borderline. The home team usually gets the close calls. That's the way it goes sometimes. The Angels are major choke artists against the Sox.They better clean up teir act real fast or they'll be golfing in a few weeks.

Since: Mar 23, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2009 7:08 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

As a transplanted New Englander, I am still a Red Sox fan. Don't get to see that many Red Sox games, but I saw this one and even I think the Angels were screwed by the umpires in that last inning. The call of "no swing" on  Green's check swing was questionable - looked really close to me. Probably would be called a strike about 50 percent of time - probably more often if it occurred early in the game. But umpires generally don't call check swings a strike late in the game unless it's pretty obvious. However, ball 4 looked like an obvious strike to me even before the slow motion replays started. I couldn't believe it was called a ball. I'm glad the Sox won but it's a shame when a game is decided by a bad call. Even so, that only tied the score. The game could have gone into extra innings except Rivera seemed to give up on the bloop to left by the next batter. Most outfielders in that situation would have at least dove for the ball and I think many would have made the catch if they did. Rivera slowed down and the ball didn't land more than a few away from him.

Since: Oct 22, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2009 6:51 pm

Umpire: Angels coaches 'unprofessional'

The same thing happenned in the playoffs last year, and not to just the Angels. As I stated then, balls and strikes should be called by computer, and all close plays reviewed. Umpires seem to think because a fielder makes a great play, tie goes to the fielder. That's not the case. There's a lot of things they could do, incuding activating the bases and the cleats (differrent signals to each team). Minimum, they should have instant replay, and if the umpires complain, get rid of them altogether.

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