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A tough vote -- no, really

Posted on: November 24, 2009 2:01 pm
Edited on: November 24, 2009 4:25 pm
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This was one of the easiest MVP votes ever.

And also one of the toughest.

The easiest because Albert Pujols was such an obvious winner, the first unanimous MVP since Barry Bonds in 2002. The toughest because there were so many great candidates to finish second through 10th.

I know, because I was one of the 32 voters for this year's National League MVP. And I can tell you that while it took me about half a second to decide on Pujols, I spent hours thinking about the other nine spots.

In most things, and even in most of the BBWAA postseason awards, nobody really cares who finishes second. It’s different with the MVP, where each spot is cherished, often rewarded (with contract bonuses) and sometimes even remembered.

One of the big reasons Jim Rice got my Hall of Fame vote was that six times in his career, he finished in the top five in MVP voting. The Hall of Fame is supposed to be for the dominant players of each era, and if you’re regularly recognized as one of the top five players in the league, that’s a pretty good show of dominance.

Speaking of which, let’s get back to Pujols, because besides winning the MVP three times (only Barry Bonds, with seven, has won it more), the Cardinals star has finished in the Top 10 in the voting in each of his first nine big-league seasons.

That’s unheard of.

The only other players with nine straight Top 10 finishes were Stan Musial and Willie Mays (who both went on to a 10th in a row), and neither did it in his first nine years. Pujols now has three first-place finishes, three second-place finishes, one third-place, one fourth-place and one ninth-place (in 2007).

Incredible.

So those other spots on the ballot do count, even when we’ve all known for months who’s going to finish at the top.

The rest of my ballot, with quick comments:

2. Ryan Howard. Tied for the league lead in RBIs, a close third in home runs, and once again dominated down the stretch for the team that won the NL East. Howard drove in 59 runs in his last 50 games. No one else in the majors had more than 41.

3. Hanley Ramirez. The batting champion, while driving in 106 runs and playing shortstop for a team that stayed in the race a lot longer than it should have.

4. Troy Tulowitzki. His turnaround matched his team’s.

5. Chris Carpenter. I still say he should have won the Cy Young, but his value goes beyond the days he pitches. Credited with finding a flaw in teammate Adam Wainwright’s delivery.

6. Prince Fielder. A great season, but he couldn’t keep the Brewers in the race.

7. Matt Kemp. Tough to pick between him and teammate Andre Ethier, but Ethier slumped during Manny Ramirez’s suspension, so Kemp finishes one spot higher.

8. Andre Ethier. The walkoff hits suggest he could have been higher on the ballot, but in front of who?

9. Matt Holliday. Only spent half the season in the NL, but his arrival helped spur the Cardinals to the NL Central crown.

10. Chase Utley. Another guy who easily could have gone higher on the ballot.

Could have been included, but couldn’t find a spot for them: Adrian Gonzalez, Ryan Braun, Pablo Sandoval, Tim Lincecum.


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LAprGuy
Since: Nov 24, 2009
Posted on: November 24, 2009 3:52 pm
 

A tough vote -- no, really

Matt Holliday only spent 63/162 of the season in the NL -- about 38%. Raul Ibanez had an equally solid 38% of his season as Matt Holliday -- should he have earned some MVP consideration?


Plisk421
Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 24, 2009 3:50 pm
 

Jeremy Affeldt got an MVP vote

I know it is one 10th place vote, but how does Jeremy Affeldt get an MVP vote from anybody?  i just don't understand.  Are there a few guys out there that just don't take the voting seriously?  Heck, Yunel Escobar, who was benched multiple times for lack of hustle got a 5th place vote.  Someone made their ballot and thought "hmm. Albert Pujols, Ryan Howard, Hanley Ramirez, Prince Fielder and man... can't decide between Tulo and Braun so I'll just pick Yunel Escobar?"  Makes the whole thing pointless, really.

here's a link to the voting.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp

?ymd=20091115&content_id=7669452
&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&am
p;c_id=mlb#votes



alexr29
Since: Jul 12, 2008
Posted on: November 24, 2009 3:48 pm
 

A tough vote -- no, really

Knobler, you're rationale for voting Prince Fielder as 6th is ridiculous.  It wasn't his fault that the Brewers pitchers were the worst in baseball.  Plus, you are inconsistent, since you saw it fit to vote Hanley Ramirez 3rd even though the Marlins didn't make the playoffs either.  Why is Fielder being punished so much more????


JohnDimitri
Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 24, 2009 3:45 pm
 

A tough vote -- no, really

It's particularly remarkable that Pujols has finished in the top ten in MVP voting for each of his first 10 seasons ... when you consider that 2009 was only his ninth season in the majors!

I certainly think he is the best player in MLB today, and will prove to be one of the all-time greats by the time he is finished. But even he couldn't pull off that accomplishment ... yet.

Thats how good Pujols is.  We are already giving him credit for a top 10 finish next year...which isnt that ridiculous since its a forgone conclusion unless he gets hurt. 




NIckie72113
Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: November 24, 2009 3:45 pm
 

What?!! Prince > Ryan Howard.

Prince Fielder beat Ryan Howard in every major batting category except strikeouts.  We are talking about the MVP of the regular season, not who led their team the furthest into the postseason.  That also sums up what I think about Troy Tulowitski, Hanley, and Chris Carpenter being ahead of him also.  And if you are so fond of playoff performances, then why is Chris Carpenter high on the list?  All he did was get knocked around in the opening round of the playoffs.  A great season, but he couldn’t keep the Brewers in the raceNo way buddy.  He was unreal.  It was our poor starting pitching for the last three months of the season that couldn't keep us in the race. 

I am stunned to see Prince 6th and Utley 10th on your list.


srcewearl
Since: Feb 8, 2007
Posted on: November 24, 2009 3:32 pm
 

A tough vote -- no, really

Pujols unanimous was easy, but why did someONE vote for miguel cabrera number one in the american league. cabrera, not tiex, not jeter but cabrera, COME ON! the guy who made that vote should be kicked off the panel!
they both should of been unanimous


bobleb
Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: November 24, 2009 3:07 pm
 

A tough vote -- no, really

It's particularly remarkable that Pujols has finished in the top ten in MVP voting for each of his first 10 seasons ... when you consider that 2009 was only his ninth season in the majors!

I certainly think he is the best player in MLB today, and will prove to be one of the all-time greats by the time he is finished. But even he couldn't pull off that accomplishment ... yet.



rocket00
Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: November 24, 2009 3:04 pm
 

A tough vote -- no, really

Not even a mention of Derrek Lee? Way kick a Cubs fan when they're already down!!!!


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