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Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Posted on: December 14, 2009 4:09 pm
Edited on: December 15, 2009 10:54 am
 
A three-team blockbuster that would send Roy Halladay to the Phillies and Cliff Lee to the Mariners is nearly complete, CBSSports.com has confirmed.

A few final details are still to be finalized, but Halladay is expected to sign a contract extension that will pay him about $60 million for three years, with vesting options beyond that. The Phillies will send three prospects to the Blue Jays in exchange for Halladay, including pitcher Kyle Drabek and outfielder Michael Taylor. They will receive three prospects from the Mariners in exchange for Lee, including pitcher Phillippe Aumont.

The Phillies have aggressively pursued Halladay since July, when they couldn't come to an agreement with the Blue Jays and instead acquired Lee from the Indians. The Blue Jays have changed general managers since then, and the new regime went to last week's winter meetings eager to deal Halladay and get younger players in return.

The Jays' desire for young talent made a trade with Philadelphia complicated, and the Phillies' payroll constraints made it even more difficult. It's believed that the Phillies couldn't fit both Halladay and Lee into their 2010 payroll, so to acquire Halladay they also needed to make the deal to trade Lee.

Halladay and Lee are both Cy Young winners, and between them they have three 20-win seasons (two by Halladay).

The Mariners had hoped to add a top-level starter to a rotation that already includes Cy Young runner-up Felix Hernandez. They had been talking to free agent John Lackey, but with Lackey headed to the Red Sox, they were able to shift their focus and agree to the deal for Lee.





Comments

Since: Apr 5, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:33 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

The Mets would be left out in the cold again id this is true. They are not going to win any champioships with there current pitching staff, and that is not a knock on Johan Santana. What is Omar doing?



Since: May 23, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:32 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Something else you guys are missing here is the fact Halladay would be able to pitch on 3 days rest in the postseason. Not be a bitch and make the Phils start their #4 Pitcher. In a 7 game series you'll get 3 starts from Halladay not 2 like with Lee. That's huge....and probably would have been last year too.

What else you are forgetting is the crappy divisions Lee has pitched in. He hasn't had to face the Yanks, Rays, and Sox half the time. Now that Halladay has been put in a division with only 1 good offensive team (and he's playing on it) he'll be so good you philly fans arguing with this trade will be on here celebrating another WS championship.

With all that said, I am a little shocked at how much the Phils are reportedly giving up. I guess it is because the Mariners only get Lee for 1 year,....and I'm sure the Jays are paying a portion of his contract this year.



Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:28 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Lee only has one year left on his contract and wants to be a free agent...Phils can lockup Halladay for 4 or 5 years.

Also, the trade would add a right hander to a heavily lefthanded starting staff.
Exactly!  Would've been great to keep him and get Halladay but I'd rather be able to keep Happ and resign Utley and Howard!  Seriously it's shocking because of the short tenure but it makes total sense.  Good for the Phillies for getting this done!  I just hope the Mariners don't trade Lee to the Dodgers, Mets, etc!  Let him beat up on the Yanks and Red Sox when they play.  Lackey leaving the Angels certainly open up the Mariners for that division though! 

I think most of the backlash here from non Phillies fans are from Yankees fans because they are pissed they didn't have a crack at any of these guys!



Since: Mar 27, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:25 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

On the surface it doesn't look like it makes much sense, but when you consider that the Phillies will probably have Halladay tied up for 3-5 years and Cliff Lee for only 1 year, it makes perfect sense.  You phillie fans should be thrilled with this deal.  You are getting a Cy Young winning pitcher for 3-5 years for another Cy Young winner who will probably by gone after the 2010 season.  Your management is looking out for the Phillies future beyond one year.  It's all about free agency and contracts with this deal!



Since: Dec 14, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:24 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Lee only has one year left on his contract and wants to be a free agent...Phils can lockup Halladay for 4 or 5 years.

Also, the trade would add a right hander to a heavily lefthanded starting staff.




Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:24 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Inside scoop is that Lee wanted to test the FA market after this season so they would have lost him anyway, so why not make a deal and ship him out and get the #1 locked up for 4 years? Sounds like a good deal to me...



Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:20 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

I dont understand why you would trade away talent just to get what you already have. Because again, Lee already said he was going to test the FA waters so they may have had to pay the same as they will have to for Halladay.   Although you know Lee would continue to pitch the way he has in a contract year.  I understand the frustration but they had to deal him or lose him.  Getting an equal right hander makes sense here.  Believe me I'd rather have both, but one or the other is better than neither!



Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:19 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Ok everyone, here is how this goes: Cliff Lee was offered an extension, and he opted to test free agency.  For those of you that don't have a goddamned clue about what you are talking about, this means he could walk at the end of the year and we get nothing.  Halladay WILL sign an extension, is a better pitcher, and provides stability at the top of the rotation for years to come.  You also get to keep Draybek and Happ, two players that will be on this pitching staff for years to come.  This makes the rotation better and keeps our young pitchers with lots of team control on the roster, which will make it possible to re-sign Howard and Utley (remember them?).  And that's the trick: we keep our good, young players that play for peanuts, making it possible to re-sign our stars when the time is right.  And please, everyone just please stop talking about trading Cole Hamels.  He had a down year - young pitchers do that.  He was also World Series MVP.  If you're going to give up that quickly on a 25 year old left hander, you don't have a clue how baseball is run. 



Since: Mar 27, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:18 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Yeah, like it's that simple.  And who out there do you suppose would be willing to take Hamels off the Phillies hands with his contract?  Come on- get real!



Since: Dec 16, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:13 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

As long as the <expletive-deleted> Yankees don't get him, it's cool.


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