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Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Posted on: December 14, 2009 4:09 pm
Edited on: December 15, 2009 10:54 am
A three-team blockbuster that would send Roy Halladay to the Phillies and Cliff Lee to the Mariners is nearly complete, has confirmed.

A few final details are still to be finalized, but Halladay is expected to sign a contract extension that will pay him about $60 million for three years, with vesting options beyond that. The Phillies will send three prospects to the Blue Jays in exchange for Halladay, including pitcher Kyle Drabek and outfielder Michael Taylor. They will receive three prospects from the Mariners in exchange for Lee, including pitcher Phillippe Aumont.

The Phillies have aggressively pursued Halladay since July, when they couldn't come to an agreement with the Blue Jays and instead acquired Lee from the Indians. The Blue Jays have changed general managers since then, and the new regime went to last week's winter meetings eager to deal Halladay and get younger players in return.

The Jays' desire for young talent made a trade with Philadelphia complicated, and the Phillies' payroll constraints made it even more difficult. It's believed that the Phillies couldn't fit both Halladay and Lee into their 2010 payroll, so to acquire Halladay they also needed to make the deal to trade Lee.

Halladay and Lee are both Cy Young winners, and between them they have three 20-win seasons (two by Halladay).

The Mariners had hoped to add a top-level starter to a rotation that already includes Cy Young runner-up Felix Hernandez. They had been talking to free agent John Lackey, but with Lackey headed to the Red Sox, they were able to shift their focus and agree to the deal for Lee.


Since: Oct 8, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:09 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Why?  If you cant keep Halladay and Lee on the same roster because of salary why wouldnt you just stay with Lee?  He only set playoff records and gave the Phillies their only two wins in the World Series.  I dont understand why you would trade away talent just to get what you already have.  At least with Cliff Lee on the roster you can still add talent with the chunk of change you're saving.

Since: Dec 14, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:58 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

To all you Hamels Haters...

How quickly you forget...He is one guy who was a huge part of bringing the Phillies/Philly their first championship in 27 years. Stop hating,  the guy pitched tons of innings(more than any other year in his career), so he had a bad playoffs...He has many good years left and I'm sure will be a huge part in bringing Philly another championship before his carrer is over.

Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:56 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

No way Phillies trade Lee. They can't be that stupid. With Hamels a bust and Lidge can't protect anything he was the only post season pitcher to do anything. How is Hamels a bust?  He had a bad year and was injured throughout some of the year.  Lidge goes though this being strong 'every other year' in his career.  He did come through at the end of the year. 

This ultimately comes down to Lee only signing an extension and nothing long term.  I agree I would LOVE to have Halladay AND Lee but the fact remains they will lose Lee when he becomes a FA so they have to get something for him.  With that in mind this is a no brainer.  As well as the fact that someone else said, that we are losing a great pitcher (and hitter where Lee get's the edge with Halladay), but could certainly use a lights out RIGHT HANDED STARTER seeing we have so many lefties.  Lefties are hard to come by but we can't keep all of these guys.  Halladay can go the distance which saves the pen (so did Lee) but again they would lose Lee anyway and Halladay wants to go to a contender, it's a win-win.

I'm just glad Lee isn't going to the Dodgers (and Lackey for that matter).  The Dodgers are a solid starter away from getting over the hump.  I'm more shocked that NY Yankees weren't in this or any other blockbuster PITCHING prospects.  I think you are just mad that the Yankees were a part of this deal.

GO PHILLIES and more so (right now) GO EAGLES after taking down the Giants yet again!  WHOOO!!!!!

Since: Apr 20, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:54 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

For those of you suggesting that you should've traded Hamels, stop be stupid before I start suggesting that the Mariners should've traded Carlos Silva.

Cliff Lee is a Mariner. Glad to see we've got someone who will go 4-0 when we get to the playoffs!

Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:45 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Look at the stats. Halladay is legitimately the better pitcher. Career ERA of 3.43 while lee is close to 3.97. Halladay consistently has Cy Young years while Lee has been off and on. This will balance out the rotation as well. Hopefully we also keep drebek as well.

I totally agree with you that Halladay is better but what did the Phillies accomplish really?? They still only have ONE ace now....

Since: Nov 30, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:45 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

I would actually agree with you.  Cliff Lee just has way more heart than Cole Hamels.  Lee expects to finish the game every time he is handed the ball.  Hamels seems mainly concerned with money and has had an injury history.  I know Hamels has more time left on his deal than Lee, but I would definitely rather have Cliff if it were my team.  Just my 2 cents.

Since: Dec 14, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:44 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

I think the Phillies had trouble signing an extension with Lee. I also think the Phillies wanted a righty arm to go with Happ and Hamels so they were not stuck with starters 1,2,3 as lefties.

Since: Jan 20, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:43 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Felix Hernandez and Cliff Lee....that'll be one of the top pitching duo's in the league!! 

Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:41 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close


The Phillies tried for the last month to sign Lee long-term.  Lee likes it here buts to be paid "at market value".  Who knows what that was or is, and would you pay Cliff Lee Santana/Sabathia money??  NO.

Halladay's extension appears to be 3 years for $60 million with a vested 4th year option, all after next year at $15.75 million.  THIS IS A STEAL, and is below his market value because HE WANTS TO PLAY HERE.

Trade Hamels???   Let me ask you-  Do you all sell low and buy high???   Come on, use your heads....

It would be fantastic to have both, no question, but we are not the trust-fund babies that are the Yankee Fans.  We have to be smart, and this move allows us to be competitive when trying to re-sign J-Roll, Howard, Werth, and Victorino, not to mention signing Utley again in a couple of years....

This was necessary, and when you think about it, a genius move when you consider what the Jays were asking for last July, versus what we gave up for Lee...


Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:39 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

What more could the Phillies have asked for going down the stretch and into the workd series out of Cliff Lee? He was LIGHTS OUT but the rest of their pitching staff did not do much other than Pedro and you know he is pretty much done. So what really did they accomplish in this trade if they get to the big dance again they will still only have ONE lights out ACE in Halladay...

Just my .02

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