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Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Posted on: December 14, 2009 4:09 pm
Edited on: December 15, 2009 10:54 am
 
A three-team blockbuster that would send Roy Halladay to the Phillies and Cliff Lee to the Mariners is nearly complete, CBSSports.com has confirmed.

A few final details are still to be finalized, but Halladay is expected to sign a contract extension that will pay him about $60 million for three years, with vesting options beyond that. The Phillies will send three prospects to the Blue Jays in exchange for Halladay, including pitcher Kyle Drabek and outfielder Michael Taylor. They will receive three prospects from the Mariners in exchange for Lee, including pitcher Phillippe Aumont.

The Phillies have aggressively pursued Halladay since July, when they couldn't come to an agreement with the Blue Jays and instead acquired Lee from the Indians. The Blue Jays have changed general managers since then, and the new regime went to last week's winter meetings eager to deal Halladay and get younger players in return.

The Jays' desire for young talent made a trade with Philadelphia complicated, and the Phillies' payroll constraints made it even more difficult. It's believed that the Phillies couldn't fit both Halladay and Lee into their 2010 payroll, so to acquire Halladay they also needed to make the deal to trade Lee.

Halladay and Lee are both Cy Young winners, and between them they have three 20-win seasons (two by Halladay).

The Mariners had hoped to add a top-level starter to a rotation that already includes Cy Young runner-up Felix Hernandez. They had been talking to free agent John Lackey, but with Lackey headed to the Red Sox, they were able to shift their focus and agree to the deal for Lee.





Comments

Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:39 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Look at the stats. Halladay is legitimately the better pitcher. Career ERA of 3.43 while lee is close to 3.97. Halladay consistently has Cy Young years while Lee has been off and on. This will balance out the rotation as well. Hopefully we also keep drebek as well.



Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:39 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

For the Phillies fans lamenting Lee moving on.  Get over it, you are getting Roy Halliday, the best pitcher in the AL and has been for many years now.  Lee is nice but he can't compare.  With Philly run suppport, Halliday is a guaranteed 20 game winner barring a freak injury (his only lengthy D/L stint was a line drive breaking his leg).  Watch Roy pitch and you will soon forget about Cliff.




Since: Dec 8, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:36 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

This is a great move by the mariners. Now all they need to do is sign Jason Bay and get Adrian Gonzalez for first base and we will be set to contend with the angels for the AL West.



Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:35 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Totally agree about Hamels...not only is he young he is a lefty and they take more time to develop.  Hamels will be great again.  As for this trade...this is not as much as an upgrade as Phillies fans think.  Lee has won 63% of his starts (90-52) Halladay has won 66% (148-76).  Lee's career era is 3.97, Halladay...3.43.  Lee has 900 K's in 194 games.  Halladay has 1500 in 313 games.  There numbers are close and Lee is two years younger.  They have both been twenty game winners and have both won the cy young.  So now the Phillies clearly have a legitimate ace.  But they did last year with Lee...this trade is a push..one ace replacing another. 



Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:33 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Yeh i agree i am a huge Phils fan and live here in PA and Hamels has that i do'nt care attitude
and. Especially after how he handled himself in the big Show and his comment i just can't wait until the season is over. This is the guy they should be dealing not Lee. Hamels just reminds me of that rich boy that got everything he wanted. Come on Phils wake up and smell the Coffee this guy has an attitude problem and i don't seeing it going away anytime soon.Undecided



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:32 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Cole Hamels will be better than Cliff Lee one day....he's got 48 ML wins and he just turns 26 in two weeks...He's a lefty with great stuff and he will make a tremendous #2 starter in 2010...The Phils are smart not to give up on Hamels...



Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:29 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

All you people saying get rid of Cole are morons.  He is in his 20s and has already pitched like an ace.  There is no reason to not believe he will not regain his form this year as he goes into the offseason more dedicated this time.  Do you think Hamels liked not performing well?  These people in professional sports are the most competitive human beings alive.  Hamels will regain his form and be fine in the number two role with Doc Halladay.  Phils will be back in Series barring any serious injury!



Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:21 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

i don't know why cbs is claiming that this trade hasnt happend.  S.I has reported this deal as good as done... as is the Toronto Media



Since: Oct 24, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:21 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

This past season combined Lee was 14-13 for both the Indians and Phillies with a 3.22 ERA,   while during the same last season Halladay was 17-10 with a 2.79 ERA and playing for the Blue Jays who gave him absolutley no run support.  If the rest of the Jays had actually managed to hit the ball and score some runs Halladay easily would have had over 20 wins.  With a supporting cast such as the one present in Philadelphia, this trade is a definitie upgrade and Halladay would love to perform in the post season.  As a Toronto fan i have been priveleged to see Roy Halladays skills at work, just as i was able to see A.J Burnett before he was allowed to walk to the Yankees through free agency.  at least the Jays will now get something in return for the Doc.  Until the payroll is increased in Toronto and we are able to stop a pitching combo like A.J Burnett and Roy Halladay from leaving, the Blue Jays will not be competitive in the AL east.



Since: Dec 14, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:21 pm
 

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

1st of all Hamels was a world series MVP he is still young.  He might be a cry baby since he wasnt our ace this year but I guarantee he will be one of the best in the game again this season, so I hope we keep Lee and Hamels and we will own baseball for years to come.  Halladay can stay where he is as far as im concerned.  Oh and by the way Seatle needs alot more then Cliff Lee to have a chance like maybe buying the Phillies whole team.



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