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Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's close

Posted on: December 14, 2009 4:09 pm
Edited on: December 15, 2009 10:54 am
A three-team blockbuster that would send Roy Halladay to the Phillies and Cliff Lee to the Mariners is nearly complete, has confirmed.

A few final details are still to be finalized, but Halladay is expected to sign a contract extension that will pay him about $60 million for three years, with vesting options beyond that. The Phillies will send three prospects to the Blue Jays in exchange for Halladay, including pitcher Kyle Drabek and outfielder Michael Taylor. They will receive three prospects from the Mariners in exchange for Lee, including pitcher Phillippe Aumont.

The Phillies have aggressively pursued Halladay since July, when they couldn't come to an agreement with the Blue Jays and instead acquired Lee from the Indians. The Blue Jays have changed general managers since then, and the new regime went to last week's winter meetings eager to deal Halladay and get younger players in return.

The Jays' desire for young talent made a trade with Philadelphia complicated, and the Phillies' payroll constraints made it even more difficult. It's believed that the Phillies couldn't fit both Halladay and Lee into their 2010 payroll, so to acquire Halladay they also needed to make the deal to trade Lee.

Halladay and Lee are both Cy Young winners, and between them they have three 20-win seasons (two by Halladay).

The Mariners had hoped to add a top-level starter to a rotation that already includes Cy Young runner-up Felix Hernandez. They had been talking to free agent John Lackey, but with Lackey headed to the Red Sox, they were able to shift their focus and agree to the deal for Lee.


Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:58 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's discussed

The Phils did get better.

There were not going to sign Lee long term.

Halladay is better then Lee. I know someone said a top 10 pitcher for a top 10 pitcher but let's get serious Lee is not in the same class as Halladay. Lee did lose a total of 13 games last year (14 -13 overall 7-4 with the Phils). Lee is not as consitantly good as Halladay.

Halladay will be signed long term setting the Phils rotation as Halladay, Hamels and Happ.

Since: Oct 27, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:56 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's discussed

This is a dumb move by the Phillies when they could just outright buy Halladay and bolster their starting line up with Halladay and Lee.

Since: Sep 27, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:55 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's discussed

 I WOULD TRADE HAMELS! HE PROVED HIS CAN NOT HANDLE THE PRESSURE.. Get off the crack pipe, dude. Pressure ? Were you in a coma in 2008 ? One bad year from a guy who turns a whopping 26 this month does not make him a bum. Every player has a bad year now and then. Lay off the guy, please... SP's typically dont reach their prime until they turn 27, which he wont do until after next season !!!!

Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:51 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's discussed

Unless Cliff Lee is on record as saying he doesn't want to sign an extension or doesn't want to stay with the Philies, I don't get this trade.  Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee are very comparible and you know Lee can perform in the playoffs where Halladay would still be a question mark.  Based on this postseason where Lee almost single handedly pitched them to the title, I would be reluctant to do anything that doesn't involve keeping Cliff Lee.

Since: Jul 23, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:51 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's discussed

Yeah the Phils could keep Lee while dealt Happ but why give up a young pitcher now while he is pitching well. There will always going to be someone up for trade before July 31 2010. The Phils could get someone there if Happ falls. The Phils got Blanton, Moyer, Hamels and Kendricks up for the rotation plus possible Halladay.

Since: Nov 20, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:49 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's discussed

Dont understand how hamels is garbage to everyone? Did i miss his nlcs and world series mvps in 08?

Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:48 pm

This doesn't make sense to me

I'm not a Phillies fan but I did witness Cliff Lee open up a can of woop @ss on the entire national league last year, so I ask is this deal really the best move?  Halladay is great no doubt about it but dominating lefties are hard to find just ask Cole Hamels.  Both are going to be free agents but I'm guessing Halladay's price tag is going to be considerably higher than Lee's.  I personally don't think the Phillies are that much better if at all with Halladay and without Lee.  A lot of people have mentioned giving up Hamels and I think we all can agree that would be great but highly unlikely, but what about JA Happ and some of the other Phillies prospects?  That way you keep both Halladay and Lee.  I'm sure the Phillies brass have already thought of that but to me this deal just doesn't make much sense. 

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:46 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's discussed

Unless the Phillies gave us Chase Utley and Ryan Howard, I don't need to know what we're getting in return to know it's an embarrassment for the Jays.

Since: Nov 25, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:40 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's discussed

I think you hit the nail on the head.

Since: Nov 16, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 5:40 pm

Halladay to Phils, Lee to M's discussed

I dont understand, just my opinion but I would like to keep and extend Lee

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