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Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

Posted on: December 16, 2009 10:53 am
Edited on: December 16, 2009 10:57 am
The Mets won the last two winters, landing first Johan Santana and then both Francisco Rodriguez and J.J. Putz.

The Mets lost the last two summers.

So does it matter that so far this offseason, the Mets just seem to be falling farther and farther behind their big rivals in Philadelphia and the Bronx? Shouldn't the Mets and their fans understand by now that it's not all about grabbing big bold headlines in the winter?

Perhaps, but the way the Mets have operated this winter is enough to make you wonder. It's enough to make rival executives wonder.

When the Mets capped off a lackluster winter meetings by basically announcing that they were making offers to Jason Bay and Bengie Molina, plenty of those rival executives asked if it was all for show.

"They made an offer to Bay that they knew wouldn't get it done," one said, noting that the Mets' reported offer of $60-65 million over four years was basically the same deal they knew Bay had just rejected from the Red Sox.

So now, after two more days of screaming back-page headlines -- today's Daily News has general manager Omar Minaya dressed as Santa Claus shouting "Ho! Ho! Hopeless!" --'s Jon Heyman reports that the Mets not only would be willing to go to five years for Bay (albeit for a lesser per-year salary), but that they want in on the bidding for Matt Holliday, as well.

And again people will ask, is it all for show?

If the Mets indeed have money -- even their own people have asked the question in conversations with friends around the game -- then this should be another good winter for them. The Red Sox are now out of the bidding on Bay, and the market for both him and for Holliday has seemed to be slow to develop.

The Giants keep insisting they're not in. The Angels could be a factor, at least for Bay, but they really wanted to add a big pitcher rather than a big outfielder. The Yankees are always lurking, but the need isn't great and the keep-him-away-from-the-Red-Sox factor isn't there, the way it was a year ago with Mark Teixeira.

So maybe patience really is the right course for the Mets, and maybe it will land them the big bat they really do need. Maybe they'll win another winter.

And maybe this time it won't lead to summer disaster.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: February 20, 2012 4:34 pm

Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

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Posted on: December 24, 2011 5:55 am

Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 5, 2011 11:30 pm

Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

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Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

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Since: Jan 5, 2009
Posted on: December 22, 2009 11:02 am

Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

Yes, Cabrera is now a Brave!  Also Holliday is a base stealer,15 to 20 per year when healthy; Bay is not!

The Mets organization find bargain players.  Anyway what FA in their right mind would come to a Mets team who looks like they are not committed in winning.  There are a lot of angry Met fans; they drew 3 million last year becasue many wanted to see the new stadium.  If this team makes no REAL moves, they will be lucky to draw 2 million.

I am also one frustrated Met fan and will not be renewing my season tickets.

Since: Jan 5, 2009
Posted on: December 22, 2009 10:52 am

Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

Yes the organization is HOPELESS.  Met fans are screaming about how this team sits on their hands while their divison rivals of the Phillies and Braves get stonger.

And yes, it's all talk, every year you hear the Mets are on this guy and this guy and they end up with third or fourth string FA, the cheap ones.

I can bet that the Yankees will get Holliday or Bay now since they just traded Cabrera for Vazquez.

We Met fans will suffer some more, I am really leaning towards the other team, a team who knows how to put a winning team together.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: December 22, 2009 10:14 am

Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

I'm a Met fan, but we have to temper our enthausiam relative to the Japanese players they have signed. Remember moving Reyes to second for "the great Japanese shortstop." How'd that work out. The M's got Ichiro, the Yanks Matsui, we got Shingo---complete with face makeup....or so it appeared.

Since: Sep 27, 2007
Posted on: December 18, 2009 10:13 pm

Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

What are you stupid? This "past his prime CF" is the best center fielder in the game along with Torri Hunter. Silly Philly Phag. lmao..
Wow, it's true. The Mets fans truly are as stupid as their GM. You're right. Beltran is in his prime. He catches a few hot streaks over the course of a season. Maybe, what, a total of 40-60 games ?? He is always hurt of late. You are an idiot. Get some players on your team who actually give a crap whether or not the team wins or loses, then talk smack.

Quit living in the past, moron. The sooner you, and the rest of the idiot Mets fans, along with Pablo the GM realize that your team is a heartless, gutless bunch of terds, the better off you uneducated bunch of Ricans will be..

Have fun sniffing our arse's for the next decade HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH


Since: Oct 26, 2006
Posted on: December 17, 2009 11:12 am

Are the Mets really 'Hopeless!'?

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NEW YORK (AP)—Japanese reliever Ryota Igarashi is close to completing a two-year contract with the , a person familiar with the negotiations told The Associated Press on Tuesday.The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal had not been finalized.Igarashi, a 30-year-old right-hander, throws 93-94 mph with a splitter, the person said. New York needs setup help in the bullpen for All-Star closer .Igarashi pitched for the Yakult Swallows in the Japanese Central League.

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