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Stability in Cleveland

Posted on: February 18, 2010 2:50 pm
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There was a rumor in the scouting community about a year ago that Indians general manager Mark Shapiro might be on the hot seat.

It didn't take many phone calls to find out that it wasn't true. No, an Indians person said then, when Shapiro moves on from the GM job, he'll become the Indians president and Chris Antonetti will take over as the GM.

Sure enough, the Indians announced today that Shapiro will become club president at season's end, with Antonetti succeeding him as GM.

Under the Dolan family ownership, the Indians haven't kept their star players -- CC Sabathia, Cliff Lee, Victor Martinez -- but they have kept their executives. Antonetti turned down opportunities to possibly become a GM elsewhere, because there was never any doubt that this day was coming.

Overall, that front-office stability is a good thing. Most of the best organizations have had their management teams in place for a while, allowing them to develop a plan for the future and the opportunity to see it through. The Twins, where Bill Smith seamlessly succeeded Terry Ryan (as Ryan succeeded Andy MacPhail) are maybe the best example.

But you wonder how many owners would have kept the faith in Shapiro (whose eight-year record as a general manager is just 635-661) and allowed him to pick his own successor. And you wonder whether the Indians would be better off if the Dolans could find a way to free up enough money to keep their players.

It's tough in Cleveland, where the economy is terrible and the Indians are third on the pro sports pecking order behind the Browns and the LeBron-led Cavaliers. Yes, the Indians once sold out every game, but as one person familiar with Cleveland baseball said: "Cleveland's a great baseball town when the team wins every year, LeBron is in diapers and the Browns are in Baltimore."

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Since: Feb 18, 2009
Posted on: February 20, 2010 10:48 pm
 

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You're correct that the Indians can't draw crowds now, but that's because they're awful.  They had an " almost made it " season in 2007, but that seems to be an abberation of sorts, at least now.  When they sold the 455 out in a row, they had a good team. Fans will come to see top teams play; teams like the Cavs. Who's going to an Indians' game? People who don't understand baseball?  Indians' management make weird manuevers in the offseason. With the players they've signed over the winter, they've got no place to go but down......and how far down is the question.


But the 2007 season was a clear sign of what the average Indian fan really is.  A bandwagon fan. They never showed when the Indians had a great team.  Even in 2005, they were not there.

Cleveland is a football town ruled by King James in the middle of a recession.  The Indians are 3rd on the food chain.  The good news is, should LeBron choose to skip town this summer, the Indians will be #2 with a bullet.






Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: February 20, 2010 8:22 pm
 

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Indians33Fan:


You're correct that the Indians can't draw crowds now, but that's because they're awful.  They had an " almost made it " season in 2007, but that seems to be an abberation of sorts, at least now.  When they sold the 455 out in a row, they had a good team. Fans will come to see top teams play; teams like the Cavs. Who's going to an Indians' game? People who don't understand baseball?  Indians' management make weird manuevers in the offseason. With the players they've signed over the winter, they've got no place to go but down......and how far down is the question.



Since: Feb 18, 2009
Posted on: February 20, 2010 7:09 pm
 

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Also, you're wrong about Cleveland being a football town first.  Indians were popular for decades , even before existence of a pro-football franchise there.

Maybe we need to rephrase that for some of the slower folks out there.....Since the invention of Pro Football in Cleveland, the city has been a football town.  And that's a reach pal.  The only reason the Indians sold out 455 in a row is because the Browns were playing home games in Baltimore in the mid 90s and LeBron was in grade school in Akron.  Since the Browns have been back, and the Cavs got a ping pong ball to bounce their way, it has been hard to draw at the Jake.





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