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The nuttiest no-hitter yet

Posted on: June 25, 2010 11:07 pm
 
The pitch-count police are no doubt screaming.

I'm not. I can't. I'm too stunned to scream.

Another no-hitter? With eight walks? On 149 pitches?

Really?

Oh yeah, another no-hitter, and this time it's Edwin Jackson of the Diamondbacks, against the Rays, the team that traded him away a year and a half ago. It's the Rays, the team that has been the loser in two perfect games in the last 12 months, now losing an imperfect game.

And it really was 149 pitches, with eight walks, a hit batter and a wild pitch.

Really.

Yes, 149 pitches, the most anyone had thrown in a major-league game in almost five years (and the most anyone other than Livan Hernandez had thrown in more than six years). And the most anyone had thrown in a no-hitter in all the history that baseball-reference.com has recorded.

The pitch-count police are not going to like that. They're going to say that Diamondbacks manager A.J. Hinch was reckless, that he was putting Jackson's health at risk.

I'm not so sure about that. I'm not so sure that Hinch didn't help Jackson, by allowing him a night he'll never forget -- and, perhaps, a night that could help him understand how good he can be.

Jackson is talented enough that he made the American League All-Star team last year with the Tigers. But he's erratic enough that he has a 43-45 career record, inconsistent enough that the Rays basically wouldn't pitch him in the 2008 postseason, then traded him to the Tigers (who a year later traded him to Arizona).

Before Friday, he had completed two of 125 career starts. His lone shutout before this came in 2007, a season he began with eight straight losses and an 8.20 ERA.

Did I mention he's been inconsistent?

Anyway, Hinch has regularly allowed Jackson to throw more than 110 pitches, and twice before he's allowed him to go past the 120-pitch mark. Jackson is 26 years old, and he's already proven to be durable.

He has good enough stuff that it shouldn't be a total surprise that he could throw a no-hitter -- especially in this year where almost anyone can throw a no-hitter.

But a 149-pitch no-hitter, with eight walks, a hit batter and a wild pitch?

That is a surprise. A total surprise.

And I'm still too stunned to scream.
Comments

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: June 26, 2010 6:47 am
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

There is a rule to qualify for a no-hitter, it's in the name no hitter, you cannot give up a hit.  Just like a 300 yard game is in the name for a quarterback, it doesn't matter if they throw three interceptions they still have a 300 yard game.  A hat trick in hockey is a hat trick whether you take 3 shots or 20.  Stop belittling the guy for walking 8 batters he threw a no hitter, his stuff was good enough that despite putting 8 batters on base with free passes he was still able to win a 1-0 shutout with a no hitter.  Maybe it's more impressive that he got himself out of his jams that many times.  Why do you care that he gets more attention than a guy who throws 1 hit baseball, that guy that throws 1 hit baseball probably goes goes to sleep thinking I wish I hadn't given up that one hit then I could have gone in the record books.  I highly doubt the winning pitcher of 1-0 no hit ballgame ever goes to sleep thinking I wish I had given up 1 hit instead of walking 8 batters then people would think I was much better pitcher and deserved to be in the record boooks.  He goes to sleep saying holy crap I can tell people for the rest of my life that I threw a no hitter in the MLB, my kids can say that, my grandkids can say that, and their kids can say that and trust me they will.



Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: June 26, 2010 6:42 am
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

Are some of you people just plain stupid? It's called a no-hitter for a reason. You give up no hits. It's not called a "fairly-controlled pitching effort while giving up no hits complete game." It's not called a "no-hitter with no more than 3 walks and 120 pitches." Get over it. The dude walked some people. A no-hitter is about preventing your opponent from getting a hit. It has nothing to do with your ability to keep the ball in the strike zone.



Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: June 26, 2010 5:52 am
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

Saying Edwin Jackson threw a no-hitter is telling people it's better to walk 8 batters and not give up a hit than it is to give up only a hit and nothing else.

There should be a rule put in place for what it takes to qualify for a no-hitter. Like how starters must go 5 innings to qualify for a win ... I think there should be a limit of base runners a pitcher is allowed to put on base to qualify for a no-hitter.

Right now Edwin Jackson is getting more headlines for throwing a 8 walk no-hitter than any starter who only gives up a hit and nothing else. That just isn't right.



Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: June 26, 2010 3:19 am
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

Glad someone mentioned A.J. Burnett. Edwin jackson had a tad more control. Surprised the original author didn't do more than tag Burnett's name with no mention of the mirrored performance 9 years ago.



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: June 26, 2010 3:09 am
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

and how many perfect games do you have jerk off? Edwin Jackson didn't throw a perfect game, so they probably have the same number. So maybe before hurling insults, you actually post something accurate?



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: June 26, 2010 3:08 am
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

When was the word "Bad" or "Awful" or "Terrible" ever used by Knobler? Do people read articles or just scan them? An eight-walk no hitter IS "nutty" and "Stunning" it is unusual. What's the problem with admitting as much? 



Since: Feb 18, 2008
Posted on: June 26, 2010 1:41 am
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

I can't believe these people saying it wasn't a good game by Jackson.  He won 1-0, and it's a freaking no-hitter, which every starting MLB pitcher would love to have at least one of on their resume.

Would an 80 pitch, 2 hit, 1-0 win performance have been better?  Technically, yeah.  And, in about 2 weeks it would practically never be mentioned by anyone ever again.  For the rest of his career, every time he pitches, the opposing team's announcers will say he has a no-hitter when talking about his career.  Just like Burnett's no-no.



Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: June 26, 2010 1:09 am
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

and how many perfect games do you have jerk off?



Since: Mar 1, 2009
Posted on: June 26, 2010 1:01 am
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

I suppose by definition, this is indeed a no-hitter. But it's sort of like a basketball player taking 45 shots to score 50 points. Sure, you got your milestone, but you hardly did it with efficiency. Give him credit for enabling his team to win the game. Let's wait to bestow some real praise upon this guy when he throws a no-hitter and only allows one or two runners.



Since: Feb 13, 2007
Posted on: June 25, 2010 11:52 pm
 

The nuttiest no-hitter yet

I went to a San Diego Padres game back in 2001 when the Florida Marlins were in town.  I remember the Marlins pitcher being all over the place, with Padres having baserunners every inning.  It wasn't until about the 7th inning that I realized that while the Padres were getting runners on base, and while the Marlins pitcher was a bit wild, this pitcher was throwing a no-hitter!  That's right ... the night A.J. Burnett threw his no-hitter, he walked NINE batters, hit a batter, and threw a wild pitch.  Somehow, through all of that mess, he made it out with (only) 129 pitches, according to the box score on .  Crazy, but very fun to witness.  Congrats to Edwin Jackson for creating another fun memory for thousands of fans! 


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