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Phillies seek pitcher, focusing on Oswalt, Haren

Posted on: July 21, 2010 6:44 pm
Edited on: July 21, 2010 7:43 pm
 
It's July, so the Phillies are trying to trade for a starting pitcher.

Of course they are. They do every year.

The Phillies have dealt for a starter each of the last four years , and sources familiar with the organization said they're trying hard this week to make it five in a row.

The top target has been Astros right-hander Roy Oswalt, but it appears that Diamondbacks right-hander Dan Haren could be a strong fallback position. Last year, remember, the Phillies tried first for Roy Halladay, before switching to their second choice and acquiring Cliff Lee (before then trading Lee and acquiring Halladay over the winter).

While sources said that no deal was close, as of late Wednesday afternoon, it's entirely possible that a trade for one of the pitchers could be completed before the July 31 non-waiver deadline. While the Phillies have two openings in their rotation this weekend, after demoting Kyle Kendrick and losing Jamie Moyer to an injury, the team apparently doesn't feel pressure to get a trade completed in the next 2-3 days.

The Phillies expect to activate left-hander J.A. Happ from the disabled list to start Sunday's game against the Rockies, although in some scenarios that have been discussed, Happ would be part of the package the Phillies would give up in a trade.

Astros owner Drayton McLane told the team's website that "nothing's imminent" on the trade front, and suggested that any deal would wait until closer to the July 31 deadline.

A deal for Oswalt remains complicated, for all the reasons we explained last month and more. ESPN.com reported Wednesday that Oswalt would require a team to pick up his 2012 option as part of agreeing to any deal, and sources said the Phillies aren't inclined to do that. Oswalt may not really want to pitch in Philadelphia in any case, having told people in Houston that he would rather not go anywhere with a large and aggressive media contingent.

The Phillies' urgency to make a trade could also be affected by the way the team plays the rest of this week. The Phils lost five of their first six games after the All-Star break, falling a season-high seven games behind the Braves in the National League East. The Phils have also fallen four games behind in the wild-card race.

The standings provide part of the reason that the Phillies have focused on Oswalt and Haren, because both pitchers are signed past this season, so neither would be a pennant-race rental. In effect, Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro would be doing what White Sox GM Ken Williams did last summer, when he traded for Jake Peavy and claimed Alex Rios on waivers with one eye on 2010.

By acquiring either Oswalt or Haren, the Phillies would accomplish two things: First, they'd have a somewhat better chance of making the playoffs this year, and a great playoff rotation of Halladay, Cole Hamels and either of the two targets if they did get there. Second, they'd basically complete their shopping for 2011, adding the pitcher to their rotation with the understanding that they'd make room financially by allowing Jayson Werth to leave as a free agent and replacing him with top prospect Domonic Brown.

The Phils have also discussed the possibility of trading Werth this month, but at this point a Werth trade seems less likely than a deal for a pitcher.



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Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: July 22, 2010 2:51 am
 

Phillies seek pitcher, focusing on Oswalt, Haren

i stopped reading when this braves fan said howard is having a subpar year lmao hes batting nearly .300 with 22 bombs and about 80 rbis.......  who on the braves has those numbers ? guess your whole lineup is having a subpar year



Since: Jan 14, 2008
Posted on: July 22, 2010 1:07 am
 

Phillies seek pitcher, focusing on Oswalt, Haren

Howard leads the league in RBI's AGAIN and is top 5 in HR's, how is that sub par???????????? Doc is hittable now?????? His era is 2.30 how is that hittable now??????? A wannabe at 3rd who has two gold gloves the last two years and has a batting average of .300???
Oh the wannabe catcher who has been in the last two World Series??? I love when Braves fans star coming out, even though they only fill out a 25% of their stadium, even during those years you went to the playoffs for 14 years, and most of the time losing in the 1st round.

Oswalt is over the hill?????? He has a 3.10 era. Top ten in the NL. Haren is having an okay year because his team sucks. You better pray we don't get Oswalt and a bat and then see us in the playoffs because this Braves team hasn't experienced the playoffs in a handful of years. You might have the dumbest post I've seen in a while.



Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: July 21, 2010 11:57 pm
 

Phillies seek pitcher, focusing on Oswalt, Haren

I would have to agree with you that the offense is struggling. But think about it, this lineup minus Chase Utley has enough fire power to turn it around. It's not that they can't hit they're just in a funk. It happens. More importantly this trade is to get a third starter that they feel confident in throwing out there in the playoffs. I mean now that Jamie Moyer is out and Blanton is struggling they need someone to round out that playoff rotation. Furthermore, I would like to see them trade for Haren and (this may be dreaming) get Cliff Lee back in the off-season. But that will taking dumping Raul and Blanton's contracts. We should trade away Happ and Raul in a package for prospects. Trade Werth for prospects to trade for Haren and trade Blanton in the offseason for prospects or make him the fifth starter if Jamie doesn't come back. I agree this lineup without Utley should be scoring runs and hitting. The pitching is atrocious, they look great for a few innings, but first blood is always a hr against them in a multi-hr inning where 4 or 5 runs wipes out anything the offense produces. And in this slump/funk, those 4-5 runs beat them. Then a reliever comes out, even the closer and they give away more runs. The post about the Phillies finest series of 2010 vs the Reds, was spot on, the Reds were a clutch yhit each game from sweeping the Phillies just the same. Anyway, Braves win the NL East, but as for whether the Padres, Cardinals or Braves will be in the WS, that's a matter of who is hottest in the playoffs. I'd be inclined to think the Cardinals as the favorites. Anyway, the NL finally is the home team in the WS, it won't matter as the AL will beat them easily ?



Since: Dec 25, 2006
Posted on: July 21, 2010 11:06 pm
 

Phillies seek pitcher, focusing on Oswalt, Haren

 I would have to agree with you that the offense is struggling. But think about it, this lineup minus Chase Utley has enough fire power to turn it around. It's not that they can't hit they're just in a funk. It happens. More importantly this trade is to get a third starter that they feel confident in throwing out there in the playoffs. I mean now that Jamie Moyer is out and Blanton is struggling they need someone to round out that playoff rotation. Furthermore, I would like to see them trade for Haren and (this may be dreaming) get Cliff Lee back in the off-season. But that will taking dumping Raul and Blanton's contracts. We should trade away Happ and Raul in a package for prospects. Trade Werth for prospects to trade for Haren and trade Blanton in the offseason for prospects or make him the fifth starter if Jamie doesn't come back.



Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: July 21, 2010 11:01 pm
 

Phillies seek pitcher, focusing on Oswalt, Haren

Dear The Truth -

I'll overlook your lack of any sensible analysis of these teams or the division as a whole. I'll brush off your embarrassing level of homerism that loses your audience seconds into your rant. I'll forget the fact that 25,000 empty seats dominate (Ted) Turner Field on a nightly basis, contender or not. And I'll even ignore your name calling, as silly as they may be. But what I will NOT tolerate is the way you take out an axe and butcher ME -


Signed,
The English Language



Since: Jul 21, 2010
Posted on: July 21, 2010 10:58 pm
 

Phillies seek pitcher, focusing on Oswalt, Haren

Im gonna make this real simple for you!! No one wants ibanez no matter what the case may be... hes a waste of space, and mayberry BLOWS!! you have 5 jon mayberrys on the phils bench right now, people need to stop with the mayberry nonsense... theres a reason he was traded from texas 2 years ago for greg golson, they traded garbage for garbage




Since: Feb 28, 2009
Posted on: July 21, 2010 10:16 pm
 

Phillies seek pitcher, focusing on Oswalt, Haren

All this talk of pitching.

Does anyone watch the Phillies anymore?

How about how the offense is why they are losing games. They strikeout to much, can't hit with runners on, and don't steal bases.

How about a trade for a second baseman? Or just a trade to stir up the lineup?

You can have Lincecum, Halladay, Oswalt, Haren and Cliff Lee, but unless they pitch a shutout there is no gaurentee the Phillies will win.



Shoot, even when they swept the Reds before the all-star break, they won two of those games 1-0. And needed a ninth inning rally in the third one.

And well they scored one run last night, and only have one so far tonight. I hope Amaro goes offense, bullpen, then starting pitching.


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